July 10, 2005
Get ready to be pissed off...
...by Jim DeFede again: "Terror is terror, whether it's in London or Cuba" is his latest opinion piece in which he accuses Representatives Diaz-Balart and Ros-Lehtinen of supporting terrorists. To paraphrase Captain Kirk talking about Khan, at least the guy's consistent. Read the whole vile thing here.
Posted by George Moneo at July 10, 2005 11:17 AM
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I thought DeFede knew the difference between "accused" or "suspected", and "convicted".
Regardless of one's personal opinion of Posada's involvement or non-involvement, it is the courts that ultimately decide.
Ya cambia el disco Jim. It's getting old.
Posted by: Robert at July 10, 2005 12:09 PM
Hey, DeFede has always been the same cagastro enabler. More than DeFede onto himself, what worries me is that his message is parroted -and aplified- by certain elements who do so in the name of "tolerance" and "diversity of thought" and "democratic liberalism".
Posted by: CB at July 10, 2005 01:00 PM
aplified: to ape and to amplify rolled into one. I don't know how was that I came up with that word, but I did...
Posted by: CB at July 10, 2005 01:02 PM
Isn't his real name "Jim DeFEEDME"?
Posted by: Steve H. at July 10, 2005 01:30 PM
You know guys...I am bored with Mr Defecado!! I think we are GIVING HIM TOO MUCH ATTENTION!! he probably reads this blog and laughs his head off. I personally don't find him interesting.... I trust that most smart readers,people with 1/2 a brain can read between the lines and figure him out as well... he is an instigator, and I suggest with put him in the trash!! We should not give him any more of our positive energy! HE IS A HUMAN POSTILLA~~
carmen
Posted by: carmen at July 10, 2005 02:45 PM
I think the DeFede attack on U.S. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen has brought us to the point where the lines must be drawn and sides clearly defined. There is an evil and a good side to these issues in question and clear thinking people should not be afraid to choose a side. We should not hide behind the easy way out as DeFede attempts to do. He asks, "How is placing bombs in hotels and restaurants in Havana any different from placing bombs on trains and buses in London?" OK Jimmy, while placing bombs at civilian sites is disgustingly barbaric, it has become the method of waging war against a more powerful adversary as we have all witnessed, and in the liberal's argument to withdrawal from Iraq or in their claims that the war was unjustified, they are in essence, accepting terrorism as a normal method of waging their war. But the greater truth that needs to be acknowledged is that if you cannot see the difference between placing bombs in hotels and restaurants in Havana from placing bombs on trains and buses in London, then you cannot see the difference between a man who molest and murders a child and the man who pulls the lever to electrocute him. You cannot see the difference between the unprovoked sneak attack on Pearl Harbor and the atomic bombs dropped on two Japanese cities by the Americans. You can not see the difference between a movement of religious radicals whose only purpose is to kill Americans and Jews as they try to destroy the way of Democracy and impose their evil ways on all who oppose them and the fight to remove an illegal dictator from power, who used and continues to use barbaric means to maintain his control and in his 46 years of tyrant rule has been responsible for the deaths of many Cubans of all ages and gender. Well, I can see the difference and on this day I choose the side that will fight against evil, whether it is the terrorist in Iraq and around the world trying to hijack humanity and I also choose any and all methods of trying to oust the devil's representative in Cuba. And yes Mr. DeFede, that includes placing bombs in government owned or leased planes and hotels and if it kills foreigners taking advantage of the Cuban crisis, who are also financially helping the currant regime, so be it.
And Jimmy, i also want to point out, though you try to make it seem as if you were willing to give Ros-Lehtinen a chance to discuss this matter with you before printing this hogwash, giving her press secretary a call on Friday morning and expecting to be able to discuss this matter with her a mere 36 hours later indicates that a) you either give your self too much importance and expect almost immediate access to whoever or b) you really aren't interested in discussing this subject as you are maintaining your self imposed ignorance.
Posted by: Frank at July 10, 2005 03:27 PM
Great post Frank. The problem with liberals is that they want to make everything a moral equivalent. They want the good guys to play by the rules while the bad guys have no rules whatsoever. By the way if we are talking about hypocrisy why don't we talk about the castro hypocrisy. His reign was born out of bombings in public places. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Posted by: conductor at July 10, 2005 04:04 PM
I wrote DeFede an e-mail, he replied back rather quickly. He brought up the records of the other guys who were pardoned along with Posada. I replied to Jim that none had been convicted of terrorist acts. None.
We don't even have to bring up moral equivalency. Based on facts and all documented accounts, accusing Ileana of supporting terrorism is at the very best, highly speculative. Most likely, it is irresponsible and slanderous.
Carmen - you're right. We do pay too much attention to him. But it's not our fault that he has a prominent space in our primary Sunday mullet wrapper.
Posted by: Robert at July 10, 2005 05:35 PM
DeFede has always had an ax to grind againt US Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, it seems as if his professional life has revolved around slandering those Cuban-Americans who have succeeded and made their communities better. Shame on you Jim!
Posted by: Raul at July 10, 2005 06:19 PM
C; playing by the rules is what makes good guys good.
Posted by: gansibele at July 10, 2005 10:00 PM
Defede, like most of msm's leftist collaborators, doesn't miss an opportunity to attack the Cuban American community, thereby aiding the bearded dictator.
Posted by: Kathleen at July 10, 2005 10:09 PM
Gansibele, did we play by the rules to defeat Hitler and Tojo?
Posted by: George L. Moneo at July 10, 2005 10:26 PM
With the exemption of interning Japanese nationals, yes we did. All the way til the Nuremberg trials and the Marshall plan. I'm even halfway OK with Hiroshima and Nagasaki (50% genuine desire to finish the war against a suicidal enemy, 50% showing off the new atomic capability). In any case, more civilians died during the bombing of Tokio with incendiary bombs than in both those cities combined and no one makes a big deal of that.
There may have beeen isolated incidents, but far as I know we didn't fight concentration camps with concentration camps, ethnic genocide with ethnic genocide, etc. Do you know otherwise?
By the way, why is it moral "equivalency"? From my point of view, is more moral "supremacy".
Posted by: gansibele at July 10, 2005 10:53 PM
The rules allowed for the indiscriminate bombing of civilian populations. We took out two entire cities in Japan. I think all of that is fine. I think it's hypocrisy to sit there and compare a bombing of a hotel where one civilian got killed to real terrorist attacks like those on 9/11, 3/11 or earlier this week. There's really no other way for opponents of Castro to wage war. Especially from the US, which has become Castro's default protector. As I said Castro used these means and felt that they were legitimate, Cubans just may have to use the same means. I don't apologize for that. I think a few well placed bombs in Cuba may send a good signal to Castro and the rest of the population. The message is that Castro doesn't control everything or everyone.
Posted by: conductor at July 10, 2005 11:05 PM
The only rules of engagement towards an enemy who respect no rules is to outfox him at any given time. That's the classic principle of the best defense being the best offensive. With an enemy like cagastro, with all his support and comfort net and his fifth column and sleeper cells, there's no other resort that a massive offensive in all fronts to anihilate him. That's exactly what he has achieved through his helpers and the useful idiots: he has managed to avoid receiving a big blow because he is a master at diverting the attention. Traitors and rats are his employees.
Posted by: CB at July 10, 2005 11:24 PM
G-the reason you think we played by the rules during WWII is because, unlike in our so called modern times, the press that was imbedded with the troops understood what was at stake and did not report what were considered the normal atrocities of war. Our men in battle did whatever they needed to do to defeat the enemy, dirty or not.
Posted by: Kathleen at July 10, 2005 11:33 PM
CB, my thoughts precisely. Churchill used more deception to trap the deception the Germans were throwing at us.
Posted by: George L. Moneo at July 10, 2005 11:34 PM
The fifth columnist is easy to detect, and therefore easy to misinform and use against his own handlers, by feeding them a rotten potion. The best part is that when one tricks one's enemies into a trap, victory tends to be really sweet.
Posted by: CB at July 10, 2005 11:41 PM
Gansibele, here is a question for you and for general discussion: why was it wrong for the US to hold Japanese Americans (residents or citizens) in internment camps when there was ample evidence of espionage among some of them, especially in Hawaii? Wouldn't FDR's decision be more of a military policy move as opposed to a racial policy? (There were Japanese American soldiers serving in the Italian theater, after all.)
Posted by: George L. Moneo at July 11, 2005 12:19 AM
K; you realize that is impossible to discuss speculation? Show me a published credible report of what you speak of - as a matter of policy from the media entities, not isolated examples.
Moneo; it's more expedient to use a sword rather than a scalpel. I don't think the 4th and 6th amendments are meant to be suspended in times of war. As a matter of fact, many of the amendments on the Bill of Rights were created with "times of war" in mind (quartering of troops, militias, exempting military courts from grand jury requirement, etc). If they were suppossed to be suspended, it would say so. My opinion, I know many disagree.
I didn't say it was a "racial policy". But by the way, there was ample evidence of espionage also among German Americans (the Bund, the Duquesne case) and yet there wasn't a policy of rounding them off (in the US) or forcing them through "loyalty verification" processes before they could serve their country.
Posted by: gansibele at July 11, 2005 08:19 AM
Gansibele:
What is it with you?? are you a liberal trying to convince everyone here of who did what, when and how??
GIVE IT UP!! you sound like frustrated journalist, with lots of brain power, great information, well read, and alert... yet, confused by your ideals and expectations of "right and wrong"-"good and evil"
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE OUR FRIEND!!
Begin your day by processing all that great information and intellect, and please. PUT IT INTO GOOD USE!!
No mas man... aqui no convences a nadie con tu retorica!! estas como DeFede y el Herald.
Posted by: cartaya4@aol.com at July 11, 2005 09:21 AM
Part two:
G: Do not mean to be "ugly", your "retorica" is interesting. Honestly, like most of us here, I believe our cause is our pain and frustruation towards injustice, our life experiences as baby boomers and Cuban Americans.
That is only my own obstructed myopic view.. I just feel that we are becoming the next generation of Radio Mambi?(maybe that is not a bad thing after all) :)
Talk...Talk...Talk...Seguimos Plantados....
El exilio no es facil!!
Posted by: carmen at July 11, 2005 09:47 AM
Gansibele is a text book case of being not only a useful idiot, but also of being a wholehearted collaborator of the liberal agenda, Therefore, he is somebody who has no qualms in commulgating with people in the liberal media, the "friends of cagastro" groups, and all the treacherous things associated with them.
At this point we should understand that he has a job to fulfill: his task is to come here and to try to undermine what we do, and try to hammer wedges into any gap he could notice. He is obviously distracting the postings from their themes and trying to take people on other slants in order to divert the attention from the real issues we write about.
This guy is no more than a yapping lapdog for a group that is interested in dividing us as their only tool to keep cagastro in power. That's their SPO (Standard Operational Procedure)
He also comes here all the time in spite of being thrashed more than once by more than one commentator. That should explain everything, he has probably to submit written reports to his handlers, on how well his task in this blog is going.
And yes Cartaya, he has the all the markings of a liberal lefty pseudointellectual. The ones described very well by Vargas Llosa et altri in the Manual of the Perfect Latin American Idiot.
I am just tired of seeing the guy spewing venom here... He is not leaving! Amazing!
Posted by: CB at July 11, 2005 09:48 AM
G-My Father, my Uncles, and their friends fought in World War II. I grew up surrounded by these brave men, listening to their remembrances, as did most of my generation. There's plenty of written documentation out there if you want to find it. I don't need "media" reports to discern the truth. I prefer listening to those who have witnessed events first hand.
Posted by: Kathleen at July 11, 2005 10:39 AM
For my part I will say that there were things this country has done, that would have been better if we had not done them. That's because we're not perfect. But sometimes you have to take the gloves off to a certain degree. And along the continuum of nations and systems our is the most open, and the most progressive.
Posted by: conductor at July 11, 2005 11:19 AM
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." --Barry Goldwater (Nomination speech at the Republican National Convention, 1964)
Posted by: George L. Moneo at July 11, 2005 11:36 AM
Cartaya, I'm not trying to convince anybody. It's not a competition. The free flow of ideas is a reward by itself. Let me tell you something, I have changed my opinions before after talking to people whose views where diametrically opposed to mine.
Carmen, I don't think your vision is "myopic" at all. You have a different point of view than mine, that's all. When you say "I believe our cause is our pain and frustruation towards injustice" I absolutely share that.
CB, I'd say that rather than dividing, my posts here have galvanized people into refuting them. So you should be happy about that. Until the owner of this blog tells me I'm not welcome, I don't see a reason to leave. Now back to ignoring you.
Posted by: gansibele at July 11, 2005 11:39 AM
I am glad that my last comment directed to you, Gansibele, was erased. It was too good for you.
Posted by: CB at July 11, 2005 11:59 AM
Well...Thank YOU guys for the comments. I will not be distracted from the themes by Gansibele and the others "lefty pseudointellectuals" ( I like that term :) with their blah, blah, blah, any longer. CB, you hit the nail right on the head! Yeap, my sentiments exactly.
Gansibele, I am moving on....between DeFede's bullshit and others like you, I am beginning to feel like I've been waisting my time in one of those mindless chat rooms..
See YA~!
Posted by: carmen at July 11, 2005 09:17 PM
Carmen, you also hit it (him) righ on the head (with a 2 x 4, I would say!)
Posted by: CB at July 11, 2005 09:46 PM
let's not lose site of the deserving object of our disgust ... mr. defede is dangerously clueless, a daily slap in our faces. 1 Herald PL is stuck in a time warp and, ridiculously, they're expecting us to dig them out of it. well, i say let 'em figure it out by themselves. why contribute to abject ignorance?
Posted by: nappy at July 12, 2005 03:21 AM


