September 07, 2005
che the thug - on film
I love it!
Benicio del Toro is set to play che the thug in a new film by Steven Soderbergh, the excellent director of 'Traffic.' I'd go see Benecio any day but I'm especially pleased to see he's taken this role what's being billed as the first realistic film portrayal of the Original Brutal Leftist Thug who was che guevara.
Benicio will portray the Argentinian scumbag as he really was, with all his fascination with torture and firing squads and nuking the U.S. as well as his tendency to run out on his tab and not pay the help. The putrid castro poodle had no redeeming value as a human being. The film people will go all the way to the wilds of Bolivia where the admirable Bolivians took care of business and got rid of this monster in the name of us all.
I feel hopeful about this venture but being Hollywood, I understand we could be set up for disappointment. I have a major reservation about the stated ending, which apparently shows che as brave. This is a false portrayal. che was a cold blooded killer who had 'that look' that certain people who've killed a lot of people actually have. But like the coward he was, he was crapping his pants like a yellowbelly when he knew the Bolivians meant business and this after a lifetime of killing worthy and decent people. That's how he should be portrayed and how he should go down. But even if they get most of it right, it could be progresss. Let's see.
The news item is here.
UPDATE: The Feedlot has new evidence that che did indeed die crapping his pants - his photo is here.
Posted by Mora at September 7, 2005 01:39 AM
Comments
I'm very weary of Hollywood productions of events and lives such as Che's, but I hope the article is accurate in that it will actually discuss who Che was and why he was truly a scumbag. It never ceases to amaze me how many people wear Che shirts yet really have no clue who he was.
Posted by: Chad Evans at September 7, 2005 02:33 AM
Nah, that last line will make him out a hero. I have no faith in it; the pressure from Hollywood will be on them to rewrite it and make the CIA out to be scumbags. Watch!
Will they mention he signed 2,500 orders for executions? Hell, no. I do not trust Hollywood at all to do the job right.
Posted by: Howarde at September 7, 2005 04:32 AM
That guy who made the Traffic movie did a good job. I'm gonna try to be hopeful. I hope getting advance word out might encourage people to tell him not to play with the truth like those motorsickle clowns did.
Posted by: A.M. Mora y Leon at September 7, 2005 08:47 AM
Put away your illusions, Mora. No Hollywood biopic of "Che" Guevara can ever be anything but hagiographic. In the first scene, they will show a a Batista colonel raping a 9-year-old girl as a captain has a go at her mother while the father is made to watch. Next the soldiers will fray the father alive and eat his flesh, saving the testicles for the colonel [in case there's some idiot out there, this never happened]. In the next shot we will see the Batista colonel and captain crying like babies before a firing squad led by "Che" Guevara. After the fusillade is discharged, "Che" will approach one of the men, writhing in death agonies, and give him the coup de grace, saying something like, "Even these beasts are men and should not suffer unnecessarily." On the sidelines, the sole survivor of the massacre, an 11-year-old boy who hid in an outhouse shithole (yes, the Revolution introduced toilets in Cuba), will cry out, "I want to be like 'Che!'" Che will adopt him as a son and treat him exactly as he treated his own children. Well, you get the idea. Whenever Guevara commits an atrocity, his enemies will be depicted as doing something worse that justifies Guevara's own actions. As for that Charles Manson killer-look which was engraved on Guevara's own face, it will be transformed with make-up into the ethereal countenance of an avenging angel. The only problem that the director will have is how to represent both "Che" and Kennedy as heroes and mutual admirers in the film.
Posted by: M.A.T. at September 7, 2005 09:00 AM
Barf. So much truth in what you say, MAT.
I'm not convinced this director will be that bad. But most of them are.
Posted by: A.M. Mora y Leon at September 7, 2005 09:15 AM
I don't know what the movie will be like and I despise Che. As many of you know my site is dedicated to exposing the real Che. The one thing I will mention is that Felix Rodriguez, the Cuban-American CIA agent that helped capture him, doesn't mention the "crapping in his pants, begging for his life" version of events. According to Rodriguez, he was certainly not happy about being captured but was resigned to his fate. None of this is to say he had any redeeming qualities, but I'm interested in facts not myths created on one side or the other. I don't need to see Del Toro as Che begging for his life on screen unless it really happened. Let's see what happens with this film.
Posted by: conductor at September 7, 2005 11:22 AM
Facts? I've got your facts right here, conductor.
Posted by: PTG at September 7, 2005 11:54 AM
conductor: What he actually said when apprehended was: "Don't shoot. I am "Che" Guevara." Now, let me parse that for you: "I am "Che Guevara," more important than any man you will ever meet in your life. No squalid little Bolivian guerrilla, but THE GUERRILLA. Attention must be paid. I am too important to be killed. I can be more useful to you alive than dead, so it would be foolish for you to shoot. Let's dialogue." Now, did Carlos Manuel de Céspedes react this way when he was cornered? Did Henry ["El Inglesito"] Reeve? Did Calixto Garcîa? Did Panchito Gómez Toro? Of course not. They all fought back though trapped, alone and helpless, and rather than surrender they preferred to die by their own hand and cheat the enemy of their victory. Such men are colossi. Ernesto "Che" Guevara was a two-bit thug who died as he lived -- a coward to the end.
Posted by: M.A.T. at September 7, 2005 12:08 PM
Slightly off topic, but just want to point out that in 1959 rural America also still had outhouses. No doubt in my mind that Cuba, like the US would have gradually installed indoors. I have very little faith in Hollywood to make an honest film.
Posted by: Kathleen at September 7, 2005 12:20 PM
Kathleen: I was merely parrotting Communist propaganda. In fact, before the Revolution, Cuba had more toilets (and baths) per capita than France (no surprise there) and Denmark. I learned that fact from a book entitled CUBA AND THE RULE OF LAW, published in 1962.
Posted by: M.A.T. at September 7, 2005 12:27 PM
Conductor: So he was emotionless. In other words, he went down like a psychopath.
Doesn't surprise me. He killed people calmly, too.
Monster.
Posted by: A.M. Mora y Leon at September 7, 2005 02:14 PM
MAT, I know, my comment was directed to any passing idiot who would add "toilets" to the list of castro gifts to the Cuban people.
Posted by: Kathleen at September 7, 2005 04:20 PM
In any case, Kathleen, your comment gave me the chance to prove to myself that I am not quite senile yet. For I found among my 3000 Cuban books, the tome I had quoted, CUBA AND THE RULE OF LAW (1962), published by the International Commission of Jurists at Geneva. I had not looked at that book in 40 years, yet I was able to remember its arcane toilet statistics for the precise moment when I would need them. I erred in only one respect: Cuba in 1953 had more indoor baths per capita than France AND Denmark put together.
Posted by: M.A.T. at September 7, 2005 08:46 PM
The IMDB website http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374569/ has only one sentence for its description....An epic about Argentine revolutionary Che Guevara, who fought for the people. Disgusting
Posted by: Greg at September 8, 2005 01:55 PM
I know a documentary you'd HATE!
Positively hate.
Because you'd probably rather have the military kill an elected leftist leader (Hugo Chavez) than allow some leftist to rule.
Totally unbalanced.
I admit, it starts off slowly and poorly, but the fact that he has footage inside the palace before, during and after the coup is amazing.
Go to ChomskyTorrents.org and go to the documentaries section. It is called "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" (which is a great Heron song, but anyway).
Posted by: JS Narins at September 8, 2005 11:01 PM
Like I said, I don't believe Guevara had any redeeming qualities. It's just that as Cubans we have a reputation for our tall tales. And as much as personally would have liked Che begging for his life, the eyewitness accounts should be paid attention to. Comparing Che to Cuban patriots is not the point. Guevara was a piece of shit. But I'm interested in the truth about the piece of shit not hyperbole.
Posted by: conductor at September 9, 2005 02:34 PM
Anyone who believes Noam Chomsky is an idiot and a jackass.
Posted by: conductor at September 9, 2005 02:34 PM
Narins: That documentary was cobbled together from government film. Those Irish filmmakers are some of the biggest liars in the film world Here are the FACTS about that slimey bit of Chavista propaganda - along with the photos to prove it:
http://blogs.salon.com/0001330/2005/08/17.html#a2423 facts
http://blogs.salon.com/0001330/2005/08/18.html#a2425 photos to prove it
Posted by: A.M. Mora y Leon at September 9, 2005 08:35 PM
