September 27, 2005

Judge rules Posada-Carriles won't be shipped to Cuba

At last, a ruling!

According to Reuters:

EL PASO, Texas, Sept 27 (Reuters) - A U.S. judge has ruled that anti-Castro Cuban exile Luis Posada Carriles may not be deported to Cuba or Venezuela in a case that has raised questions about the Bush administration's "war on terrorism".

Immigration Judge William Abbott found that Posada, a former CIA operative wanted by Venezuela for trial in a 1976 Cuban airliner bombing that killed 73 people, faced the threat of torture in those countries and therefore could not be returned under the United Nations Convention Against Torture, a government spokeswoman said on Tuesday.

Posted by Mora at September 27, 2005 08:56 PM



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I cant wait to see the dozens of editorials across the nation tomorrow. Im sure columnists are standing at the ready waiting to follow fidel's lead.

Should be an interestng day....

Posted by: Val Prieto at September 27, 2005 09:29 PM

Posada is not free yet, so let's not get snug with this news.
This is a bad day for the Monster of Castrolandia. This morning, his top agent in Puerto Rico, Filiberto Ojeda Rios, was buried after being shot by an FBI sniper last Friday.
Ojeda was the leader of the Macheteros, who in Sept. 1983 robbed $7.2 million from Wells Fargo in Hartford. He let Castro "hold" $4 million. Ojeda, dubbed by the Puerto Rican police "El G-2 Cubano," had been a fugitive since 1990. He shot an FBI agent before being killed at his farm named "Biran" in Hormigueros, Puerto Rico. Yes, that's correct. He gave it the same name as the farm the Monster was born in. There was a $1 million reward on him, but the FBI has refused to say if anyone is collecting it.
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/ojeda-1.htm
Now, at least Posada is not going to Venezuela.
We are also fortunate that Jim DeFede is no longer at the Herald, because that "Broken Bridge" would have been his obnoxious self in tomorrow's edition.
Broken Bridge = Nadie lo pasa.

Posted by: delacova at September 27, 2005 09:37 PM

God bless snipers.

Posted by: George L. Moneo at September 27, 2005 09:41 PM

George,
The agent that killed Ojeda with one shot fired from a moving helicopter. Ojeda was wearing a bullet-proof vest and crouching behind a window of his farmhouse. He was hit on the right clavicle, where the shoulder straps on the vest offer no protection, the high-power bullet traveled in a downward trajectory, perforating the upper and lower lobes of his right lung, and smashing through his eighth rib to exit his back and burrow into his bulletproof vest.
The FBI waited until the next day before a Tactical Entry Team flown in from Virginia found Ojeda lying face down, in a pool of blood, with his left hand pressed against his wound. He probably slowly asphyxiated as his lung and thorax filled with blood. Those broken bones probably caused excruciating pain.

Posted by: delacova at September 27, 2005 10:22 PM

"Posada is not free yet, so let's not get snug with this news."


Yes, because when an asshole like Posada is free, that's when we should all jump for joy. He may be not guilty, but he's a jerk and an apologist for terrorism. What kind of person defends this guy?

Posted by: Fielding at September 27, 2005 10:29 PM

BTW,

I don't advocate him being sent to Venezuela. I don't know enough to comment. I've read enough about Posada to know he's not a great human. A person that defends him just to fit him into an anti-Castro agenda is not an advocate of human rights.

Posted by: Fielding at September 27, 2005 10:31 PM

Val,
You were right. Mr. "Fielding" has jumped the gun on Fidel's lead. He doesn't "know enough to comment," but calls Posada an "asshole." His erudition indicates a lack of a college degree. Maybe he could take some G.E.D. courses. The alias "Fielding Mellish" that he uses is from a Woody Allen neurotic character in the film "Bananas." The anonymous commentator seems to suffer from a similar mental illness. Could this be the alias of Jim "Broken Bridge" DeFede?

Posted by: delacova at September 27, 2005 11:01 PM

Fielding is a commie troll.

Posted by: George L. Moneo at September 27, 2005 11:13 PM

"I don't know enough to comment."

If you don't know enough to comment, then why comment?


"I've read enough about Posada to know he's not a great human."

Although he not be a great human (not because of what he is being accused of, but in general, for that matter, who among us is great?); I am sure what you have read was skewed and biased propaganda presented by equally agenda driven sources in the same manner as the theme which proposes that anyone who does not agree in the opinion that the man is a terrorist is somehow advocating terrorrism or not advocating human rights.

Posted by: jojo at September 27, 2005 11:13 PM

No one here knows what the truth behind Posada's story really is. Therefore, everyone should withold judgment until a fair and impartial court does its job.

There is no way he can get a fair trial in Venezuela or Cuba. Therefore, it would itself be a human rights violation to send him to either of these countries where a speedy "people's court" will surely end with an execution.

I don't want an innocent man to die. I can't condone blowing up a civilian airliner. Therefore I am not gloating today.

Does the "end justify the means" if it means an end to the castro regime? Not any means.

I am glad he will be tried here.

Posted by: CheoMedalla at September 28, 2005 12:18 AM

"Commie troll?"

"Jumped the gun on Fidel's lead?"

These comments have nothing to do with what I've said. Posada has both admitted to and denied involvement in the airline bombing. He's been convicted of planning a bombing in Panama. He's been jailed there. He recently downplayed the seriousness of a bombing in a Havana hotel that killed an Italian (his words in a recent interview).

My sources are Cubanet. Is that skewed and biased propaganda? I think Posada is an asshole. I'm entitled to that opinion and gave info on why I think that.

I quote again "Posada is not free yet, so let's not get snug with this news." Like I said, some people are rallying around this man.

I've also read people justifying terrorism against Cuba in this blog. I am criticizing people that consider freeing this man in the name of fighting Fidel, or somewhat considering it a victory against Fidel. Why defend this man?

My "no comment" is on whether he should be extradicted to Venezuela. He would never get a fair trial in Cuba. With Venezuela, I don't know much of the details of his previous trials there.

So George, what do I say that makes me a commie? Please give an example...

Posted by: Fielding at September 28, 2005 02:21 AM

Fielding,

If you will peruse this blog, you will find that I am not an advocate of Posada Carriles nor do I condone, as Im sure most of the folks here will agree, the blowing up of an airliner and killing of innocents.

However, I am absolutely glad that he will not be extradited to either Cuba or Venezuela as that would be a sure death sentence for the man without a fair trial. It would not happen in Cuba for obvious reasons. And Venezuela is now really no different.

I suggest you take a gander of some of the Venezuelan blogs on my blogroll to learn more about what is happening in Venezuela presently.

Posted by: Val Prieto at September 28, 2005 06:42 AM

My day's been made. God knows how I missed the story on Ojeda's termination. It provides a good lesson on true gun control - the true meaning of which is: "to hit your target every time you pull the trigger." Well, a lot of work remains to be done, but it's a start. My heart, prayers, and sympathy go out for the FBI agent shot while pursuing the late, cowardly slimebucket.

Whatever opinion one may hold regarding Posada-Carriles, obviously the lefties are very upset at the judge's ruling. Their little chavito-fidelito train has been des-Carriles-ado.

Posted by: Alberto Quiroga at September 28, 2005 07:49 AM

I've also read people justifying terrorism against Cuba in this blog.

Where?

What a castroite libel.

Posted by: A.M. Mora y Leon at September 28, 2005 10:34 AM

"Fielding" is still hiding behind a pseudonym. Come out of the closet Jim "Broken Bridge" DeFede. Hiding behind a fake name taken from a movie script, that's a classic Commie Troll disguise.

Posted by: delacova at September 28, 2005 12:50 PM

I thought he'd already been tried & acquitted?

Posted by: h0mi at September 28, 2005 01:21 PM

Val,

"I've also read people justifying terrorism against Cuba in this blog."

I'm not painting your whole blog with this statement. delacova seems to particularly concerned with this man, and on past threads I've read people distinguish between acceptable terrorism and unacceptable. The terrorism against Cuba was argued as acceptable.

I'm not pointing the finger at anyone in particular or generalizing everyone here, so only the guilty people can take my comments as directed at them. So the sensitive people don't get offended, I will state that I have no evidence to suggest the MAJORITY of people here have supported Posada or terrorism.

delacova,
I thought Bananas was a pretty funny movie. Maybe you don't "get" satire unless it's presented by someone like Adam Sandler?

Posted by: Fielding at September 28, 2005 01:59 PM

Val,
Until "Fielding" comes out of the closet and establishes his real identity, he's not worth responding to. It's obvious he prefers not to do that.

Posted by: delacova at September 28, 2005 02:27 PM

I never liked Bush's term, "War on Terror." Terrorism is in the eye of the beholder. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

I can at least say that I sympathize with Posada. I can't help it. His enemies are mine.

Posted by: Julio at September 28, 2005 02:28 PM

Fielding, "delacova" is a Ph.D. at an American University, and an anti-communist, to boot. I think he gets to see plenty of satire and irony on a daily basis in his job. As for you, you are still a commie troll who refuses to comment under your real name. Why don't you grow a pair and comment like a man...

Posted by: George L. Moneo at September 28, 2005 02:36 PM

George,

Comment like a man? What does that have to do with what I've written? Since when do people have to give their name on the internet? I've commented honestly. If you don't agree, just say so. So far just insults, no discussion. Nothing to say about the topic?

delacova,
I'll tell you who I am - a guy interested in politics commenting on a blog (what millions of people do each day). If you're my intellectual superior, how about honoring me with a response?

Posted by: Fielding at September 28, 2005 02:49 PM

Julio,

"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."

I disagree. I think people like Fidel should go because of the contempt for democracy and human rights violations. When you use the same tactics to defeat someone because you want to defend your values BY USING THE OTHER SIDES TACTICS, you are NO LONGER PRACTICING YOUR OWN VALUES. If terrorism was a winning tactic, you could have an argument. Setting off bombs in a hotel does not defeat your enemy. Assassination is one thing, random acts of violence is another.

Posted by: Fielding at September 28, 2005 02:56 PM

Julio,
The media applies that adage on a daily basis. Look at all the outrage over the death of Filiberto Ojeda in Puerto Rico. He was the leader of the Macheteros, who publicly took credit for the murder of policemen, U.S. sailors, bank robberies, and bombings of public buildings. A fugitive for 15 years, with a $1 million reward for information leading to his arrest. He shot three FBI agents when they tried to arrest him. Two were not wounded due to wearing bullet proof vests. Ojeda took one AR-15 round to the shoulder and lung that killed him. Why are the Herald columnists and writers of mainstream media not refering to Ojeda as a terrorist? Instead, some are denouncing the FBI for allowing this man to bleed to death.

Posted by: delacova at September 28, 2005 02:57 PM

George,
"Fielding Mellish" does not deserve an answer. I looked on Amazon.com, and no one under that name has published a book or any scholarly work. He is also not found on academic databases. He can't grow what he doesn't have. No le pidas peras al olmo.

Posted by: delacova at September 28, 2005 03:02 PM

THEATER OF THE ABSURD.
Amnesty International in London has issued a statement that they want an official investigation into whether Filiberto Ojeda's rights were violated when the FBI went to arrest him and shot him after he wounded one of their agents.
AI indicated that if they were not satified with the response, they would launch their own investigation.
http://www.vocero.com/noticia.asp?n=60475
It is obvious that they are too busy with what they perceive as their "urgent" case to have time or be as demanding with the human rights situation in Cuba.

Posted by: delacova at September 28, 2005 03:15 PM

Uh, so you have to publish a book to comment on a public blog? Ok, I'll bite. What's the name of your book? BTW, hasn't anyone seen "Bananas" and think it was funny?

Posted by: Fielding at September 28, 2005 03:18 PM

THEATER OF THE ABSURD, ACT II
At the funeral of Machetero leader, Filiberto Ojeda, he was compared to Jose Marti and Simon Bolivar.
Venezuelan Ambassador Fermin Toro Jimenez, on behalf of his government, repudiated the death of Ojeda.
http://www.vocero.com/noticia.asp?n=60476
Why is this only being reported in the Puerto Rican newspapers and the mainstream U.S. media is ignoring the news cables with this information?

Posted by: delacova at September 28, 2005 03:34 PM

dela cova now they have to catch el otro maricon machetero escondido en cuba

Posted by: tocororo at September 28, 2005 07:08 PM

Tocororo,
There are 67 fugitives from U.S. justice in Cuba, including Victor Manuel Gerena, who took $4 million of the Machetero $7 million heist to Cuba.
Fidel Castro "se comió el queso" because the Macheteros never got their money back. Filiberto Ojeda was living in a rustic shack that six years ago he built with his wife in the mountains of Puerto Rico. Ojeda was also driving a Toyota Four runner more than ten years old.

Posted by: delacova at September 28, 2005 08:17 PM

filiberto se cago en su madre .
y fifo se quedo con todo igual le va a pasar a venezuela mi hermano ya chavez esta arrasando con las propiedades privadas ...que se jodan por comemierdas...no querian cumunismo ahora que cojan cumunismo y lo peor esta por venir

Posted by: tocororo at September 28, 2005 09:02 PM

George,

Just curious. This being a public blog, of what importance is it to you that you know someone's name? I've never been asked before, not even in the old crappy Yahoo chatrooms. Same goes to delacova. Strange demand in such an informal atmosphere. I changed from Meyer to Fielding here (for good) because I like the new name. Nothing more. Not trying to deceive anyone. My opinion has no agenda other than arguing the subject. Has there been people here (such as Defede????) sabotaging the place?

Posted by: Fielding at September 28, 2005 09:06 PM

yo he oido eso de wells fargo case.
fidel dijo que la historia lo absolveria pero la historia es la que lo va condenar a el y lo esta enterrando en vida.el sabe bien qwue tiene la sangre de inocentes hasta el cuello aunque oliver stone trato de hacer otra imagen de el todo el mundo sabe y el que no quiera admitirlo que fidel es un asesino y un cobarde rodeado por miles de marionetas que bailan al compaz de su musica decadente

Posted by: tocororo at September 28, 2005 09:09 PM

Amnesty International se ha vuelto una mierda con el transcurrir de los años ..ni cuba le importa ni el sufrir de los cubanos ..somos un pueblo solo y apartado por el mundo que se niega a ver la realidad de nuestro sufrir

Posted by: tocororo at September 28, 2005 09:13 PM

Fielding, there have been anonymous commenters on the blog that have stirred up trouble in the past. Val (or I) sometimes delete the comments because they do not serve a purpose in furthering discussion; they are meant as propaganda. We have banned some of them as well. As for using your own name, I will say that I think it more seemly (to me at least) that the parties doing the discussion do it in the open. Just my $0.02, not necessarily the opinion of managment or its sponsors.

Posted by: George L. Moneo at September 28, 2005 09:25 PM

"As for using your own name, I will say that I think it more seemly (to me at least) that the parties doing the discussion do it in the open."

I think in a public sphere like this just being open about your opinion is enough. It's just a blog. I prefer to argue over the text. I don't care about people's personal lives. I'll keep the Mellish name for a while.

Posted by: Fielding at September 30, 2005 02:15 AM

I'm not sure many people see Filiberto Ojeda truly for what he was. He hurt many of his "own" while trying to fight for a island we all love. Altough his death might have lit a fire under many people, he had what should have come to him years ago-justice. My family was personally affected by Ojeda's "freedom fight", and I am glad he is six feet under. Cowards is the word that comes to mind when I think of his Macheteros...So many people now are acting like they are actual members of this group, well like the saying goes "a dog with a big bark and no bite".

Posted by: Bostich at October 6, 2005 11:20 AM