September 29, 2005

Le ronca los cojones.... (Updated)

Via Drudge:

ELIAN GONZALEZ TALKS TO 60 MINUTES: CASTRO A FRIEND AND 'FATHER'; WANTS TO SEE MIAMI RELATIVES, THOUGH CALLS THEIR ACTIONS 'WRONG' THU Sep 29 2005 12:01:11 ET

Elian Gonzalez, now a seventh grader in Cuba who calls President Fidel Castro a friend and "father," would see his Miami relatives again, despite saying their treatment of him five years ago was wrong. Gonzalez is interviewed by Bob Simon for a 60 MINUTES report to be broadcast ÊSunday, Oct. 2 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

Gonzalez, 11, is a hero in Cuba after what happened to him when he was just 6 years old: His mother died at sea and he was rescued two miles off Florida, after which he was repatriated following a months-long tug of war between Gonzalez Miami relatives and his father and the Cuban government. In what Miami Cuban exiles would say is propaganda, Castro attended the boy's elementary school graduation and declared he was proud to have Gonzalez as his friend. The feeling is mutual. "It's also very moving to me and I also believe I am his friend," Gonzalez tells Simon. "Not only [do I think of Castro] as a friend, but also as a father," says Gonzalez. The boy believes that he could call the Cuban president on the phone if he wanted to.

Gonzalez gave a patriotic speech in front of Castro and cameras on the fifth anniversary of the day U.S. law enforcement officers raided his Miami relatives' house and removed him at gunpoint to be repatriated. It's all part of Castro's propagandist plans, says Ramon Sanchez, a Cuban-American who led demonstrations in Miami in support of keeping the boy in America five years ago. "[Gonzalez] is being brainwashed by the Cuban regime. When you see a child talking in the same exact way that the dictator has talked for 46 years, you know he has been indoctrinated," says Sanchez.

The boy says his Miami relatives, with whom he spent five months, tried to persuade him to stay in America. "They were telling me bad things about [my father]... They were also telling me to tell [my father] that I did not want to go back to Cuba and I always told them that I wanted to," he tells Simon. Gonzalez says he missed his father, school and his friends back in Cuba.

The worst parts of his Miami experience were the nights he found difficult to sleep through. "I would have nightmares and my uncles would talk to me about my mother it was better not to remind me of that because that tormented me... I was very little," he recalls.

One of those great uncles who cared for him during that time, Delfin Gonzalez, denies that Elian was unhappy and says he doesn't believe anything he says in Cuba because the boy is a prisoner there.

Does Elian ever want to see those relatives again? "Yes," he tells Simon. "Despite everything they did, the way they did it, it was wrong, they are [still] my family...my uncles."

60 MINUTES is close-captioned in Spanish; the signal is on the "CC3" menu item.

Developing...

Update: Come Monday, I am sure there will be many many people who will take the 60 Minutes interview as gospel. Everything the boy will have said will be taken as the real and final word. This, along with the fact that the Cuban-American community will once again be portrayed and stereotyped as a rabid bunch of extremists saddens me to no end.

But I will not apologize for my convictions and those of my fellow Cuban-Americans.

I will not apologize for being rabid. The usurption of my country of birth and my culture and my childhood and the separation of my family make it impossiblet to be anything but. If I am angry it is with good reason.

I will not apologize for being viewed as an extremist. You can be nothing but extreme after having to leave a country under the direst of circumstances such as the Cuban exile has had to do.

I will not apologize. I will not.

Posted by Val Prieto at September 29, 2005 01:09 PM

Comments

CBS publically endorsing the murderous, repressive, child abusing totalitarian state of Kuba. This is disgusting beyond words.

Posted by: Kathleen at September 29, 2005 01:20 PM

Oh yeah, I meant to add a thanks to bill & janet. Damn them to hell.

Posted by: Kathleen at September 29, 2005 01:22 PM

It's sad to see what they've done to that poor boy. The sooner fidel kicks the bucket, the better it'll be for everyone, especially Cuba.

Posted by: AWG at September 29, 2005 01:30 PM

I see CBS continues its slide into moral oblivion. "Useful idiots" indeed. To do such an interview is in itself saddening, but to know that by doing so they are acting as propaganda arms of a communist dictator boils my blood.

Dan Rather must be so proud.

Posted by: bryan at September 29, 2005 01:36 PM

Step 1: With the edge of your fingernal begin to pull scab off of the wound. Do it quickly so as to maximize the pain.

Step 2: Once the the scab is removed and the wound is bleeding again, pour a shitload of salt in it.

Step 3: Rub it in. Mix the salt with lemon juice, iodine, and isopropyl alcohol.

Step 4: Enjoy the pain.

Thank you CBS!

Posted by: George L. Moneo at September 29, 2005 01:40 PM

Posted by: Stefania at September 29, 2005 01:44 PM

I will not apologize either.

What really frosts me about all of this media blather is that after Sunday, many people will assume that the interview was given freely, that there was no duress, that the government sponsoring the interview is a freely elected, democratic government, that there was no undue influence on Elian on the part of his father or the government as to what to say, and on and on.

As the host of one of my favorite talk shows says every week, "their failure to be informed does not make me a wacko."

Posted by: George L. Moneo at September 29, 2005 02:02 PM

another dan
El mismo perro con diferente collar ...me cago en la madre de los dos

Posted by: tocororo at September 29, 2005 02:22 PM

Posted by: Mike Pancier at September 29, 2005 04:37 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/28/60minutes/main888950.shtml

Here's the CBS link with a 3 minute video.
Breaks my heart what they've done to that young boy.

Posted by: mike pancier at September 29, 2005 04:52 PM

Val! You are one man with one voice, I thank YOU for that!! but like I said in another post...our voices seem to always fall into deaf ears!
YA NO MAS!!!!!!!!!!!! How much can we take?? now 60 minutes and CBS is going to give us a segment of the town of Cardenas?( only the side where the houses have been painted)the peaceful life of Elian in Cuba???
Elian in his "pionero" uniform talking through the indoctrinated voice of "fidel" like a zombie??
FUCK CBS!!! I am not going to watch their CRAP! and if I hear one person mentioning the program to me, I don't think I will be responsible for my actions!!

Posted by: carmen at September 29, 2005 05:27 PM

WOW! my comments were posted twice...I guess the blog did not like FUCK the first time, so I changed it to SCREW...and it went through anyway both ways...
I really meant to say FUCK CBS!! OK???
Thanks....
feel much better now...

Posted by: carmen at September 29, 2005 05:30 PM

Here are some historic Elian quotes. Why are these minions silent now?

"The privacy and the innocence of the child should be protected," said Cuba's Conference of Bishops. Miami Herald, Dec. 9, 1999.

"My hope is that people will look at this little boy and get him into a situation where he can live a normal life without television cameras and the world in his face." Janet Reno, CNN, Jan. 13, 2000.

"Although the Cuban government previously had referred to an unspecified period of 'transition'
for the boy, it has said repeatedly that it does not plan to turn Elian into a political "trophy" but that it will send him back to his hometown to live a normal life." Washington Post, April 18, 2000.

Posted by: delacova at September 29, 2005 05:32 PM

Like George said, watching this would be like re-opening a wound that has just started to heal.

We need to be strong in our convictions. We know we're on the right side of this. We don't have to apologize for anything, or to anybody.

The painful truth about Elian is out there for everyone to see. As the years go by, I think we'll see even more evidence and justification for our stance.

Posted by: Robert at September 29, 2005 05:53 PM

Carmen, I deleted your second comment with the verb "screw." You were correct the first time in the use of the verb "fuck" when followed by the noun "CBS." That is always the proper usage of that verb when followed by the name of an MSM entity. You erred, however, in that you should have used the noun "bullshit" instead of "crap" when referring to their work-product. ;-)

Posted by: George L. Moneo at September 29, 2005 06:02 PM

Gracias George!
So...do you mean that I can actually say FUCK CBS???? We should not watch their Bullshit propaganda on 60 minutes? and I don't give a FUCK about any comments made in reference to this interview!!
CBS..GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH YOUR BULLSHIT!!
Now, George...that felt good! and so much cheaper than a boring therapist!!
:)

Posted by: carmen at September 29, 2005 06:17 PM

Notice how the article says:

>>In what Miami Cuban exiles would say is propaganda, Castro attended the boy’s elementary school graduation and declared he was proud to have Gonzalez as his friend.

Posted by: Ray at September 29, 2005 06:20 PM

But don't you all know that -
CBS President Visits Castro

http://www.aim.org/media_monitor/A905_0_2_0_C/

"Cuba is the most romantic, soulful and sexy country I've ever been to in my life."

This was said by the CBS president.

Posted by: Mario at September 29, 2005 06:32 PM

Carmen, that was perfection.

Posted by: George L. Moneo at September 29, 2005 07:06 PM

When I tried to post my message before, it was lopped off. Here is the rest of it.

Notice how the article says:

In what Miami Cuban exiles would say is propaganda, Castro attended the boy’s elementary school graduation and declared he was proud to have Gonzalez as his friend.

Implicit in this remark is the notion that Castro's use of Elian as a trophy boy and going to his elementary school graduation, etc.. is not propaganda, only in our deluded, "rightwinged" minds. Remember, "Miami Cuban exiles" has become a cue word for "rightwinger" and "fanatic".

What urks me the most about all of this is that the media, the very same media that is now going to Cuba to give Elian an interview [as if Cuba were a free country where people could speak their minds unincumbered] is the same media that became apoplexic when Ileana Ros-Lehtinen and Lincoln Diaz-Balart visited Elian. They screamed that it was child abuse, they foamed at the mouth that we had turned Elian into a trophy boy, they became red in the face that we were denying him a normal life! Fast forward 4 years later, Fidel Castro has been to each and everyone of Elian's birthdays, whenever a VIP goes to Cuba, Castro takes him to Elian's home so that he can oggle the boy, Elian and his family has VIP seating at national events and gets to talk before assembled audiences, Castro has made a statue of Elian in el Malecon, and regularly visits him at school. Yet, there is nary a word, you can hear a pin drop, the silence is deafening from the same media that was formerly so concerned with Elian's mental health.

And to add insult to injury, CBS is interviewing Elian. I thought that he was going to go back to Cuba to lead a quiet life? Wasn't this the disingenous reason given for sending the boy back to Cuba?

CBS is having it both ways; they are having their cake and eating it to. Like one of the posters said: it's like removing a scab and rubbing salt on it. Have these people no principles? [rhetorical question]

Posted by: Ray at September 29, 2005 07:49 PM

George,
Your advise to Carmen makes you an aspiring semanticist.

Posted by: delacova at September 29, 2005 08:37 PM

Praise indeed coming from you Professor! Thank you!

Posted by: George L. Moneo at September 29, 2005 09:23 PM

George,
Somehow, the title "Snoring gonads" gets lost in translation.

Posted by: delacova at September 29, 2005 09:33 PM

LOL! I think Val has covered that Cubanism (and others) here. My favorite is "¡manda huevos! which I translated as "send testicles."

Posted by: George L. Moneo at September 29, 2005 09:46 PM

George,
My wife is a mulata americana cubanizada. She lovingly says that she "holds all my packages."
(Me aguanta todos los paquetes)

Posted by: de la Cova at September 29, 2005 11:32 PM

One must remember that Bob Simon was captured and held by the Iraquis for several days back during the first Gulf War in 1991. God knows what they did to his brain. Or God knows how poorly his brain was functioning in the first place, since he apparently walked right into their front lines and got captured.
The saddest thing of all is that Elian is probably a hundred times smarter than Bob Simon or anyone else at CBS news.

Posted by: Carlos Eire at September 30, 2005 12:08 AM

Elian saying "he would like to see his family in Miami someday" may be code language expressing his real feelings about living in the pederast barbudo's paradise. Children have the ability to cut through a lot of bullshit, specially when they have the opportunity - as Elian did - to see how the "other side" lives, so to speak. kaSStro woulda had a hell of a time trying to indoctrinate me, for example, as I knew my native country, even with its imperfections, before he became the landlord-from-hell and utterly ruined it.

When I see things like this, it sends chills down my spine. I can picture my 2 younger sisters, had we been stuck in that "paradise" in Pionera garb and scarf, glazed eyes, chanting "seremos como el che!" over and over. What a nightmare. I pray for that boy, that somehow there is still a little light in him that someday will be allowed to shine bright, lead him to God, truth, and freedom.

As for CBS...does it stand for Confused Broadcasting Suckers?

Posted by: Alberto Quiroga at September 30, 2005 07:03 AM

It's the year 2010, and a young man is standing in front of the US interests section in Havana. He is skinny, malnourished, with a sad look. But defiently he stands, with a sign reading: LIBERTA PARA ELIAN (Freedom for ELIAN). A confused citizen looks on and says "Compañero, tu no sabes que a Elian lo delvolvieron haces años" (dont you know they returned elian years back). SI, yo se. Yo soy Elian!! (yes , I know, I am Elian)

Posted by: daniel at September 30, 2005 09:53 AM


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