October 19, 2005
Gallegos al fin...
The Spanish government has its head up its ass. Via 4 Right Wing Wackos, we find this little tidbit of Spanish hypocrisy jurisprudence:
Spanish Judge Issues Warrant for Three GIsMADRID, Spain - A judge has issued an international arrest warrant for three U.S. soldiers whose tank fired on a Baghdad hotel during the Iraq war, killing a Spanish journalist and a Ukrainian cameraman, a court official said Wednesday.
Judge Santiago Pedraz issued the warrant for Sgt. Shawn Gibson, Capt. Philip Wolford and Lt. Col. Philip de Camp, all from the U.S. 3rd Infantry, which is based in Fort Stewart, Ga.
Wondeful, eh? Lets arrest three American GI's for a case of friendly fire during a war, while kissing fidel castro's fat white ass despite all the evidence of his murderous regime and his direct complicity in the death of untold thousands.
Le ronca los cojones, caballeros. Ahora si se por que les dicen gallegos al fin...
Posted by Val Prieto at October 19, 2005 12:57 PM
Comments
Que quiere decir la frase "les dicen gallegos al fin?" Es un cubanismo? A los espanoles en cuba les llaman "gallegos" no?
Posted by: Hunter at October 19, 2005 01:03 PM
Porque son unos berracos...
Posted by: Julio at October 19, 2005 02:15 PM
Well, it doesn't surprise me at all. It's okay to chase after something that happens when you're in the middle of a war and another to condemn tyrants like Castro. They didn't want Pinochet but look how they abstain from condemning Castro and his minions. They are hypocrites. We shouldn't travel there nor buy their products for their stand on the Cuban regime.
Posted by: A. Gonzales at October 19, 2005 02:31 PM
Zapatero and castro and Chavez have obviously been on conference call. He's such a little mierda.
Posted by: A.M. Mora y Leon at October 19, 2005 02:35 PM
They are hypocrites.
Posted by: George L. Moneo at October 19, 2005 04:18 PM
Los Españoles son tremendos hijos de puta. Siempre han tenido un filo comunista. Franco fue el que los tenia en un short leash. Deberiamos dejar que los terroristas les metan mas bombas para que aprendan que la libertad cuesta sangre y a los hijos de perra hay que llevarlos bien recios. Envidia le tiene a los Americanos,ellos estan como los Franceces otros buenso hijos de perras.
Posted by: Pepe at October 19, 2005 04:21 PM
"Gallegos" just like the barbudo himself who is of Galician stock (gallego is the common Cuban term in reference to all Spaniards, although the term technically applies only to those from the region of Galicia in Northwestern Spain).
Posted by: Robert at October 19, 2005 06:22 PM
Mrs. Aleida Guevara, Che Guevara's friend, was in Italy these days explaining how "good" is health care in Cuba and hugging a communist soccer player
Disgusting. The Italian TV gave her a megaphone to say these things..
Also, read this:
Posted by: Stefania at October 19, 2005 06:41 PM
Pepe, que imbécil eres... quieres que nos caigan bombas terroristas en España... ¿Te gustaría que les hicieran a ustedes lo mismo por meterse en una guerra ilegal, empujados por un vaquero tejano mentiroso, que ha ocasionado más muertos que todos los atentados terroristas juntos y de la cual no sabe como salir...? Que suerte que eres tan infeliz e insignificante...
Posted by: norma at October 19, 2005 06:48 PM
I thought the Gallegos were the friendliest of all Spaniards when I was there this summer. A little old man came up to my friend and I (because we were obviously lost) in La Coruna with a cordial "A donde vais!?". It is the poorest region of Spain, but I thought the Gallegos were incredible.
Posted by: Hunter at October 19, 2005 07:24 PM
It just turns your stomach. The news today was full of minime spreading his slime around Europe. They just love to take jabs at the US, that is until they need our help. I hope next they need bailing out Uncle Sam tells them to go to hell.
Posted by: Kathleen at October 19, 2005 10:35 PM
Gallegos: stupid is as stupid does. In Cuba they had a reputation for being brutish louts. This is the same stock that massacred the mambises independence fighters during fifty years until the U.S. defeated them in the Spanish-Cuban-American War. These gallegos were so fanatical, that after they killed patriot Ignacio Agramonte in battle, they burned his corpse and scattered his ashes to the wind so that his family and friends would have no grave where to mourn him.
The gallegos them implemented the Reconcentrado policy, removing Cuban peasants from the countryside and forcing them into concentration camps near the cities. They then declared the countryside a free-fire zone and shot on sight anyone found there, whom they assumed would be only rebels.
Thousands of Cubans, mostly women, children, and old men, starved to death in the Reconcentrado camps. Images of these emaciated Cubans appear at
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/reconcentrado.htm
We will never forget the victims of this Cuban Holocaust for which Spain has never apologized.
Posted by: de la Cova at October 19, 2005 11:18 PM
How do you feel about the United States and the war going on? I sorta gather that you hate fidel.. but I haven't read enough to get your perspective on the US
Posted by: Mr. O at October 20, 2005 12:39 AM
Mr. O, Read through the archives, besides getting your questions answered, you'll enjoy some great reading.
Posted by: Kathleen at October 20, 2005 12:58 AM
Pepe, que un juez de los miles que hay en el país cometa una acción incorrecta no convierte a 44 millones de personas en hijos de puta, al igual que el que un juez americano crea que se puede expropiar a alguien porque paga pocos impuestos no convierte a todos los americanos en unos putos "commies".
Posted by: Spaniard at October 20, 2005 03:55 AM
Bueno, unos besan el culo a Castro (y no precisamente los españoles, informate primero), y otros a Bush. Cada cual lleva en su pecado la penitencia. Pero te recuerdo, querido imbecil ignorante, que fue un juez ESPAÑOL el que proceso a Pinochet, y que esa dictadura fue apoyada por tu idealizado 'paraiso de las libertades'. Y no creo que porque, segun tu, mi gobierno apoye a Castro (personaje igual de detestado en mi pais que tu idolatrado asesino masivo Bush) se le haya de negar la justicia a un periodista ASESINADO, que no muerto por accidente, cuando hacia su trabajo. Curiosamente sobrevivio a los malisimos iraquies, pero sucumbio a la entrada de los esperados libertadores yankis.
Y teneis mucho que aprender de europa, patan imberbe. Especialmente de Francia.
Ni un saludo
Posted by: un español at October 20, 2005 04:45 AM
Norma,
You hit the standard socialist talking points one by one. Illegal war. Comboy Bush, Millions killed. Yawn. Find a better argument for you government's ridiculous behavior.
Spaniard,
De acuerdo. My argument isnt against the Spanish people, but its tirarse el pedo mas alot que el culo government.
Un español,
Your governmet is responsible for the lifting of sanction against castro put in place by the EU because of castro's tretment of political prisoners. Se que cuba es solo una islita para vacaciones para los españoles, pero para mi es otra cosa.
A lo mejor, si no se hubieran apendejados despues del 11 de Marzo, nosotros, loccubanos y los americanos les tubieramos un poco mas de respeto.
Y el uso de la palabra "asesinado" es una ridiculez. Te aseguro que esos soldados americanos no tenian tarjeticas con el nombre y las foto de el periodista para matarlo. Another instance of farting higher than your ass if you ask me.
And it goes to mention, that the spaniards have no moral authority to criticize anyone for war or anything else. considering their record in South and Latin America and all the MILLIONS they killed.
O se les olvida por que hablamos expañol los cubanos?
Posted by: Val Prieto at October 20, 2005 05:57 AM
What you cubans have been able to do after your independence from Spain more than 100 years ago?
Why should be spanish responsible of your today ignorance and poorness under Castro?
I don't like the President of Spain or a Judge "kiss the fidel castro's fat white ass" but it isn't George Bush kissing the ass of China or Saudi Arabia?
Y no te engañes, si vales para algo es gracias al quinto de sangre gallega que puede que tengas.Y creo que es gallega porque solo los gallegos nos mezclariamos con tu tatarabuela.
Posted by: name at October 20, 2005 06:17 AM
"implemented the Reconcentrado policy, removing Cuban peasants from the countryside and forcing them into concentration camps near the cities. They then declared the countryside a free-fire zone and shot on sight anyone found there, whom they assumed would be only rebels. Thousands of Cubans, mostly women, children, and old men, starved to death in the Reconcentrado camps."
Just the same policy US military implemented in Vietnam. With no apologizes to Vietnamese that suffered it. What a glorious followers they were.
Posted by: De la Elipa at October 20, 2005 06:29 AM
While I am of Spanish ancestry, my grandparents were Gallegos, and somewhat proud of it. I am not proud of how the Spanish people let themselves become puppets to Al-Qaeda by voting the Chamberlain-like Zapatero. This is EXACTLY what Al-Qaeda wanted you to do. Al-Qaeda knows now feels they can control you with terrorist actions. A couple of idiotic Spanish posters here say the same old left wing inspired bullcrap about Bush being a murderer but never mention anything about Al-Qaeda or how Saddam or Fidel have murdered tens of thousands. You are nothing but idiotic and cowardly puppets..Pendejos.
Posted by: Max at October 20, 2005 07:03 AM
Pepe, ¿Quién va a enseñarnos que la libertad cuesta sangre? ¿Tú? Aunque seguramente no lo sepas, cuando todavía faltaban más de 300 años para que Estados Unidos fuera tan sólo un proyecto, la sangre de MILLONES de españoles había sido derramada durante casi 800 años luchando contra los islamistas. ¿Comprendes?
Posted by: just a Spaniard at October 20, 2005 07:18 AM
name,
Que lindo. You certainly have a knack for words, especially that last little comment about a great grandmother. What chivalry from the Spanish nobility!!
Just a spaniard,
You may have fought islamicism for 800 years, but you never finished the job. Someone with enough cojones to stand up against the islamofascist and the cowering finger pointers of the world has to finish the job you started. And last time I checked, one of the worlds largest mosques was in...España!
Posted by: Val Prieto at October 20, 2005 07:30 AM
Querido Val Prieto:
>Your governmet is responsible for the lifting
>of sanction against castro put in place by the
>EU because of castro's tretment of political
>prisoners.
Disculpenos por intentar que el bloqueo no mate de hambre a ese pais. Estamos realmente arrepentidos, instaremos a EE.UU. para que proceda a invadir de inmediato esa isla y acabe con el nuevo satan, el nuevo enviado del diablo tras la caida de su ministro hussein.
>Se que cuba es solo una islita para
>vacaciones para los españoles, pero para mi es
>otra cosa.
Tal vez sea la unica fuente de ingresos que sus amigos estadounidenses les permita explotar. Asi es que al menos, no muerda la mano que le da de comer. Y cuba es, a pesar de todo, querida y recordada en españa. A pesar de castro.
>A lo mejor, si no se hubieran apendejados
>despues del 11 de Marzo, nosotros, loccubanos y
>los americanos les tubieramos un poco mas de
>respeto.
Disculpas de nuevo. para la proxima, les haremos frente de la misma manera que ustedes se enfrentan a Castro.
>Y el uso de la palabra "asesinado" es una
>ridiculez. Te aseguro que esos soldados
>americanos no tenian tarjeticas con el nombre y
>las foto de el periodista para matarlo. Another
>instance of farting higher than your ass if you
>ask me.
Seguro que los terroristas del 11-S y del 11-M tampoco tenian una tarjetica de las cientos de victimas mortales de esos atentados. ¿Como llama usted a esas muertes? ¿Daños Colaterales? ¿Victimas por fuego cruzado?
>And it goes to mention, that the spaniards have
>no moral authority to criticize anyone for war
>or anything else. considering their record in
>South and Latin America and all the MILLIONS
>they killed.
Disculpas por nuestras politicas de conquista, similares a las de ingleses, norteamericanos, franceses... de hace siglos. Intentamos dialogar con los indigenas, pero claro... entre que no tenian el mismo idioma y que sus dioses eran distintos... al final, no hubo acuerdo posible
Evidentemente, EEUU, con su politica de guerra preventiva, tiene mas autoridad moral que su mismisima santidad
Posted by: Un español at October 20, 2005 07:34 AM
As a son of a gallego, let me say that my experience with the gallego gene strain is that gallegos are either extremely good, or extremely bad. There seems to be no in between. I do not know why.
As for the current crop of fools, including judges, infesting Spain, too bad we can't conjure up Teddy and his Rough Riders, to send them over and let them give that bunch a good ZURRADA, same as they got back in '98...
With this kind of mentality, no doubt the Philippines would today be Japanese, had there been no Spanish-American war, as some Spanish judge would have ruled that to resist the onslaught of Imperial Japanese troops could be construed as a "war crime." Pendejos!
There's yet time for redemption, hijos e hijas de Galicia.
Posted by: Alberto Quiroga at October 20, 2005 07:45 AM
Un español,
Disculpenos por intentar que el bloqueo no mate de hambre a ese pais. Estamos realmente arrepentidos, instaremos a EE.UU. para que proceda a invadir de inmediato esa isla y acabe con el nuevo satan, el nuevo enviado del diablo tras la caida de su ministro hussein.
Ay, por favor. Dejatye de cuento. Para empezar, no es un "bloqueo" es un embargo. son dos cosas completamente diferentes, y si no tubieran la cabeza metida en el culo de fidel y el socialism, supieran la diferencia. pero papa fidel les dice que es un bloqueo, y eso es todo lo que necesitan los admiradores del fidelito.
Tal vez sea la unica fuente de ingresos que sus amigos estadounidenses les permita explotar. Asi es que al menos, no muerda la mano que le da de comer. Y cuba es, a pesar de todo, querida y recordada en españa. A pesar de castro.
Es la unica fuente que Cuba tiene de explotar por que su presente gobierno la ha llevado a eso. Y puedes decir que Cuba es querida a pesar de fidel, pero tu propio gobierno apoya a su dictadura.
Disculpas de nuevo. para la proxima, les haremos frente de la misma manera que ustedes se enfrentan a Castro.
Jejeje. Si, claro. Deberias de ponerte a leer algo no socialista y veridico para que aprendas un poco de como los cubanos han luchado contra fidel. Parece que la realidad duele que tienes que echarme a mi ese muerto.
Seguro que los terroristas del 11-S y del 11-M tampoco tenian una tarjetica de las cientos de victimas mortales de esos atentados. ¿Como llama usted a esas muertes? ¿Daños Colaterales? ¿Victimas por fuego cruzado?
Cualquier persona que no sea ni bruto ni comemierda debe de entender que si esats en un pais donde hay guerra, que existe la posibilidad de morir. Tanto come del enemigo como de victima de fuego cruzado. Se creen que tienen los cojones bien grande para hacer esta acusacion tan absurda.
Disculpas por nuestras politicas de conquista, similares a las de ingleses, norteamericanos, franceses... de hace siglos. Intentamos dialogar con los indigenas, pero claro... entre que no tenian el mismo idioma y que sus dioses eran distintos... al final, no hubo acuerdo posible
Y claro, como que no se podian comunicar, era preferible erridicar los indijenes, y mas facil para robarle los tesoritos.
Evidentemente, EEUU, con su politica de guerra preventiva, tiene mas autoridad moral que su mismisima santidad
es mejor que esperar sentados comiendo mierda socialista hasta que nos bombardean dias antes de una eleccion, no? Ya los españoles se rindieron. Ahora lo que tienen que hacer es dejar de joder y dejar a los que prefieren vivir sin directivos islamofascistas resolver el problema.
Despues de todo, algun dia nos daran las gracias.
Posted by: Val Prieto at October 20, 2005 07:55 AM
The arrogance show by the gallegos (Spaniards) on this blog is the same arrogance they employed to massacre the Cuban people during the 19th century, and STILL refuse to apologize for it. It's the same stupid mentality of "Defenderemos a Cuba hasta el ultimo soldado y la ultima peseta."
Some on this blog are still trying to justify the henious Reconcentrado policy by saying that the U.S. used a similar policy in Vietnam. That's comparing apples to oranges. The press never showed photos of starving, emaciated vietnamese in American camps. I challenge any of them to provide the photos.
When I visited Madrid in 1998, these gallegos were some of the most dishonest people I have ever met. Since I was a turist, just about everyone I dealt with was trying to cheat me out of a few pesetas. The taxi drivers, the hotel employees, and the store clerks who repeatedly tried to short change me or took twenty minutes to go get change, hoping that I would leave in the meantime.
In 1998, they were still fighting in the press the Spanish-Cuban-American War, just like fanatics in the deep South are still fighting the American Civil War. That's why the gallegos hate the U.S. viscerally. The gallego soldiers, including Fidel Castro's father, cowardly surrendered to U.S. troops in Cuba, Manila, and Puerto Rico. Their Pacific and Atlantic fleets were sunk by the U.S. Navy, none of whose ships were lost. As the U.S. troops marched halfway into Puerto Rico, gallego soldiers did not challenge them. These bullies that massacred the defenseless Cuban people did not have the courage to resist U.S. troops, and surrendered after a few skirmishes in Cuba. In Manila, the gallegos even arranged a secret surrender with the Americans so as not to give the city to Filipino insurgents. They likewise surrendered the city of Santiago de Cuba, demanding that Cuban patriots be kept from entering the city as conquerors.
Today, the middle aged gallegos are invading Cuba again for sex tourism, exploiting needy young girls. It's the same abusive mentality as the Reconcentrado policy.
Let's proudly remember one of the forgotten stanzas from the Cuban National Anthem that says:
"No temais los feroces iberos
son cobardes como todo tirano
no resisten el brazo cubano
su imperio para siempre cayó"
Good ridance!
Posted by: de la Cova at October 20, 2005 08:01 AM
De la Cova y Val Prieto han demostrado que su odio a España es previo al 11-M y la politica de Zapatero.
Te repito la pregunta a ti tambien de la Cova,
¿Si el "brazo cubano" es tan fuerte a que se ha dedicado desde que se independizo de España?¿A menearse la polla?
Posted by: name at October 20, 2005 08:17 AM
name,
I dont hate Spain, I just despise Spanish socialists who are hypocritical enough to take their delusional self righteousness and criticize the US despite the fact that socialism is responsible for the deaths of untold millions.
You may want to read these posts before you make any more assertions on me:
Posted by: Val Prieto at October 20, 2005 08:34 AM
I don't agree with today spanish gobernment policy with Cuba but they don't start the fire, I mean lot of people thought an appeasement policiy with Castro will help to bring democracy to Cuba.Including for example John Paul II,Do you remember his visit to Cuba,or Spanish King Juan Carlos I one?
It was a pity that Cubans did not follow a trail to democracy like the Nicaraguans did.
By the way, I don't hate USA ,but I simply don't think they have the last word about democracy allways.If they attack Castro it is not a question of democracy but self defense and if they made war against the fucking gallego bastards(Like me, and proud of it) was because they can not buy Cuba to Spain like they buy Florida not because the cruelty of gallegos or because The Maine
Han pasado 100 años pero como se parece el ataque al Maine y las famosas armas de destruccion masiva en Iraq.¿Eh?
Posted by: name at October 20, 2005 08:56 AM
Jejeje. Si las mismas armas de destruccion que todo los gobiernos del mundo pensaban que estaban en Iraq. Las mismas que saddam tuvo 4 años sin represenativos de la ONU en su paiz para esconder y trasladar. Hay que tener un poco mas de sabiduria, caballeros.
You no me acabo de caer de la mata, y por eso estoy seguro de que saddam o ya tenia las armas, of estaba en proceson de tenerlas. Its only logical.
Todo esto de una guerra ilegal es simplemente por que los europeos, los franceses y los alemanes en particular, se estaban llenando los bolsillos con el "oil for Food" program de la ONU. Y para que no se les acabara la fiesta, u no los cojieran con las manos en al cockie jar, tomaron el lado de la dictadura de Saddam Hussein.
Posted by: Val Prieto at October 20, 2005 09:04 AM
Si claro, Val Prieto y no te olvides de Rusia, pero si USA no estaba robando a manos llenas era porque se habia autoexcluido despues de la Primera Guerra del Golfo de 1991.¿O que te crees que hace en dictaduras igualmente horrososas e islamicas?
Por cierto que USA no tenia ningunas ganas de atacar a Saddam en el 91 ya que era su hombre fuerte contra los iranies.Si ataco fue porque UK si que se dio cuenta del peligro potencial de Saddam a largo plazo y que era cuestion de tiempo que siguiera atacando a otros paises.Y no es cuestion de democracia ni de encontrar armas.Los paises de la zona eran igual de dictaduras pero UK no queria que un sadico acabara controlando el 100% del petroleo del Golfo.
Lo de encontrar armas fue una excusa para quitar a Saddam ya que el embargo o bloqueo -como en Cuba -por desgracia no habia servido para nada ,excepto para joder al pueblo ya que el dictador y sus amiguetes vivian a placer-como Fidel.
Espero que algun dia los Cubanos acaben gobernandose libremente y que no surja otro dictador como Fidel pero de signo contrario y del agrado de USA ,como lo era Batista.
Posted by: name at October 20, 2005 09:28 AM
Val Prieto,
>Ay, por favor. Dejatye de cuento. Para empezar, >no es un "bloqueo" es un embargo. son dos cosas >completamente diferentes, y si no tubieran la >cabeza metida en el culo de fidel y el >socialism, supieran la diferencia. pero papa >fidel les dice que es un bloqueo, y eso es todo >lo que necesitan los admiradores del fidelito.
Ironias aparte... o yo vivo en una cueva, o no me entero de ese 'feroz apoyo' al regimen castrista. Si tanto le apoyamos, expliqueme por qué no ha venido, como su compadre chavez, a la cumbre celebrada en Madrid. Las malas lenguas lo achacan a que tal vez le hubieran detenido en cuanto pisara españa, por no se qué de una querella que alguien presento contra el...
>Es la unica fuente que Cuba tiene de explotar >por que su presente gobierno la ha llevado a >eso. Y puedes decir que Cuba es querida a pesar >de fidel, pero tu propio gobierno apoya a su >dictadura.
Reitero: digame como le apoyan.
Y al menos admite que la situacion actual es culpa del gobierno cubano, y no de los españoles. Menos mal
>Jejeje. Si, claro. Deberias de ponerte a leer >algo no socialista y veridico para que aprendas >un poco de como los cubanos han luchado contra >fidel. Parece que la realidad duele que tienes >que echarme a mi ese muerto.
Yo no leo nada de politica, es mas, no suelo tener afiliacion a un partido 'porque si'. Cuando voto, voto dependiendo de lo que han hecho hasta ese momento. Otra cosa es que no todos hagan eso.
Y solo hablo en funcion de lo que veo. Como decian por ahi, si el brazo cubano derroto al imperio español, ¿a que espera ese brazo para mandar a la mierda a castro? ¿No hay cojones para hacer lo mismo que hicimos los gallegos de mierda con Napoleon?
>Cualquier persona que no sea ni bruto ni
>comemierda debe de entender que si esats en un
>pais donde hay guerra, que existe la
>posibilidad de morir. Tanto come del enemigo
>como de victima de fuego cruzado. Se creen
>que tienen los cojones bien grande para hacer
>esta acusacion tan absurda.
Si, evidentemente todo corresponsal de guerra lo sabe. De hecho, en las filas periodisticas españolas se cuentan bastantes bajas por esa profesion. Pero resulta que los yankis sabian de sobra que ese hotel era donde estaban los periodistas. Sabian lo suficiente como para no disparar, y lo hicieron. Evidentemente, fue un español como pudo ser otro cualquiera, pero el caso es que NO HAY MOTIVO NI JUSTIFICACION PARA ESE DISPARO. Dicen que pensaban que les apuntaba un lanzacohetes... seguro que si, soldadito, seguro...
>Y claro, como que no se podian comunicar, era
>preferible erridicar los indijenes, y mas facil
>para robarle los tesoritos.
Si, algo parecido a lo que hicieron los yankis con los sioux, los ingleses con los nativos africanos, los franceses con...
>es mejor que esperar sentados comiendo mierda
>socialista hasta que nos bombardean dias antes
>de una eleccion, no? Ya los españoles se
>rindieron. Ahora lo que tienen que hacer es
>dejar de joder y dejar a los que prefieren
>vivir sin directivos islamofascistas resolver
>el problema.
esperar? comiendo mierda? es eso tambien lo que hicieron sus amigos yankis, esperar comiendo mierda republicana? en fin... algunos oyen campanas y no saben donde...
>Despues de todo, algun dia nos daran las gracias
Juas! Cuba al rescate del mundo mundial! Que me parto!
Posted by: Un español at October 20, 2005 10:11 AM
Vergüenza ajena (pero no sorpresa) me produce léer algunos comentarios de mis compatriotas?? españoles.Como vergüenza me da ser gobernado por el traidor y cobarde Rodriguez Zapatero. Traidor y cobarde con España,que deberia defender pero no lo hace con la excusa de la "alianza de civilizaciones" ¿y quén quiere aliarse con terroristas?
Un puñado de imbeciles que afirman que los atentados del 11-M estan justificados por haber participado en una "guerra ilegal"!!,¿hay algúna guerra legal? y si es así ¿quien lo decide? , ¿la ONU con el corrupto Koffi Annan a la cabeza y Gadafi en el consejo de derechos humanos? patético.
Traidor y cobarde por abandonar a sus aliados (35 países no solo USA ) en la lucha contra un tirano terrorista,mientras se pacta y se hace negocios con ortos dictadores que matan de hambre a su pueblo y le privan de todas sus libertades ,como Castro que es el que ha llevado a Cuba a la miseria y no los USA por mucho que se empeñen los "pacifistas".
A estos amantes de la paz les pediria que llevaran su mensaje a esas "civilizaciones" en las que lapidan a mujeres y prohiben todo culto que no sea el Islam... que vayan y a la vuelta me lo cuénten.
Posted by: Eo at October 20, 2005 10:37 AM
Ironias aparte... o yo vivo en una cueva, o no me entero de ese 'feroz apoyo' al regimen castrista. Si tanto le apoyamos, expliqueme por qué no ha venido, como su compadre chavez, a la cumbre celebrada en Madrid. Las malas lenguas lo achacan a que tal vez le hubieran detenido en cuanto pisara españa, por no se qué de una querella que alguien presento contra el...
fidel no fue a la cumbre por su estado de salud, no por que no fuera invitado y aceptado por tu gobierno con brazos abiertos y besitos. Y las malas lenguas son simplemente malas lenguas, dudo mucho que cualquier juez en españa hubiese tenido el corraje de arrestar al intimo amigo de Zapatero.
Y solo hablo en funcion de lo que veo. Como decian por ahi, si el brazo cubano derroto al imperio español, ¿a que espera ese brazo para mandar a la mierda a castro? ¿No hay cojones para hacer lo mismo que hicimos los gallegos de mierda con Napoleon?
Como no atiendes a la polyica, ni te voy a explicar las razones. Leete un poco y depues regresa si quieres.
Si, evidentemente todo corresponsal de guerra lo sabe. De hecho, en las filas periodisticas españolas se cuentan bastantes bajas por esa profesion. Pero resulta que los yankis sabian de sobra que ese hotel era donde estaban los periodistas. Sabian lo suficiente como para no disparar, y lo hicieron. Evidentemente, fue un español como pudo ser otro cualquiera, pero el caso es que NO HAY MOTIVO NI JUSTIFICACION PARA ESE DISPARO. Dicen que pensaban que les apuntaba un lanzacohetes... seguro que si, soldadito, seguro...
Claro, claro, Por que los Americanos estan en Iraq para assesinar a un reportero español, ese fue todo el proposito de invadir a ese pais. Sheesh. It was a mistake. Plain and simple.
Si, algo parecido a lo que hicieron los yankis con los sioux, los ingleses con los nativos africanos, los franceses con...
Y que? todos siguieron el modelo espanol.
esperar? comiendo mierda? es eso tambien lo que hicieron sus amigos yankis, esperar comiendo mierda republicana? en fin... algunos oyen campanas y no saben donde...
Esperar a que los islamofascistas tengan necesidad, otra vez, de atacar en las calles de madrid. Como ya lo hicieron en Marzo antes pasado. Y como ya tiened prueba de que el pueblo español se rinde.
Juas! Cuba al rescate del mundo mundial! Que me parto!
No, a Cuba no. A los EEUU. Si quieres te decimos "de nada" desde ahora.
Posted by: Val Prieto at October 20, 2005 10:40 AM
Coño, gracias, Eo. Una voz de razon aqui en este thread desde La Madre patria al fin.
Posted by: Val Prieto at October 20, 2005 10:41 AM
¿Ahora la "Madre Patria"?
En fin...
Posted by: following at October 20, 2005 11:06 AM
Val,
Que histéricos, ignorantes, y mal hablados son estos galleguitos que no conocen su propia historia. Todavía sangran por la herida de la gran derrota del 98. De ahí parte el rencor, odio, y frustración que aún le tienen a Estados Unidos después de más de un siglo. Quienes están llenos de odio nos acusan de odiar por decir la verdad histórica.
Estos son los herederos de la Inquisición, de las masacres, pillaje, robo, violaciones, abusos, y explotación de millones de indígenas en el Nuevo Mundo. Los mismos bandidos que implantaron la salvaje reconcentración en Cuba y masacraron al campesinado con su guerra de exterminio, en la cual participó como soldado Angel Castro Argiz, el padre de Fidel Castro.
Los mismos gallegos atorrantes que se dan golpes de pecho porque un juez gallego encausó a Pinochet, pero que ellos mismos no hicieron nada contra el facista Franco, el amigo de Fidel Castro, que a pesar de ser un enano, dejó chiquito a Fidel Castro y Pinochet, trepándose al poder sobre los cadáveres de un millón de gallegos que perecieron en la guerra civil.
A los gallegos ignorantes que claman que los cubanos tenemos su sangre, que recuerden su propia regla de "Limpieza de Sangre": con la quinta generación termina todo vínculo sanguineo.
Amén.
Posted by: de la Cova at October 20, 2005 11:10 AM
Tu ,De la Cova si que demuestras que no tienes ni puta idea de tu historia.
Teniamos que haber vendido Cuba a USA y te ibas a enterar donde ibas a estar tu ahora.
¿Inquisicion?¿Limpieza de sangre?
Tu sabras la sangre que tienes a mi me la pela.
¿Donde estan los indios o los mestizos de las colonias que se libraron del yugo Español?
No voy a desmontar la "Leyenda Negra" en un par de lineas.Lee,lee que te hace falta.
Tanto "brazo cubano" y tanta dignidad haberlos demostrado en bahia de cochinos que tambien tenias apoyo de USA en esa ocasion.
Posted by: name at October 20, 2005 12:13 PM
Val,
"Cavalgamos, porque los perros ladran."
Posted by: de la Cova at October 20, 2005 12:18 PM
De la Cova,
Otra cosa que me deje en el tintero ,capullo.
Franco a parte de ser amigo de Castro era amigo del Presidente Ike sobre todo despues de llegar a un acuerdo sobre cesion de suelo para la instalacion de bases americanas en territorio español.
Una vez mas la incansable lucha por la libertad y democracia del gobierno USA.
Posted by: name at October 20, 2005 12:23 PM
First of all, I am a proud Spanish, proud of the history of my people and proud of my people in general. All the insults that some guys are just telling of us are not going to make our ancestors less brave or important for world History.
I do not take into account a lot of very unjust propaganda that normally other European countries have made throughout a lot of time about Spanish conquest of America. Spain was the only metropoly that by the Toro Laws (1505), stated that American Indians were the same that the Castillian conquerors before the law. The King of Spain and Emperor of Germany, Charles, recieved Bartolomé de las Casas, a fierce fighter for the Indian rights, and a lot of his propositions were made into laws. I would like to see now Bush or Putin receive someone who critizised so his positions, as de las Casas critisized Spain at that time. Of course, there were people who did not fulfill the laws, just as today. But even the discoverer of the new world, Colon, was imprisioned by ill-treatment of the Indians by people under his command and powerful Hernan Cortes, the conqueror of Mexico, was dismissed under the same indictment. Nowadays, do you really imagine Bush dismissing Rumsfeld by Abu Ghraib abuses?
But what they haven't told you is that:
a) In USA, Native Indians are like lions in Africa, that is, they live in reserves, performing dances and chants to entertain the visitors.
About this there is a marvellous anecdote: Agustín de Foxá, Spanish ambassador to Argentina, in the 1950's, overheard Evita Perón telling other person "just tell that Spaniard of shit to enter here". And when he entered, he just said: "this Spaniard of shit greets these shit of Spaniards" = "este español de mierda se presenta ante esta mierda de españoles". This statement can not very frequently be made in USA as the English did not marry, or even mix, very often with the Indians.
b) The French were allies ot the Turks (Ottoman empire) and of the Mediterranean pirates whose captain was the famous Barbarroja (the red-bearded). When the war began, the French and German states denied their help, and only the Venetian Republic and the Pope, were Spanish allies. They won the Ottoman in the battle of Lepanto 7/10/1573, in what is, as Historians say, the end of the Ottoman power in the Mediterranean. What you have to take into account is that Spain, as USA now, could not hold the Arabs alone. And more than 5 centuries have elapsed since then, and none of the other empires have done nothing to confront them (Great Britain for example, only did marvellous treaties with them). And today, USA is funding some Arabic organizations that are, at least, contributing to some associations that are not very crtics with islam. You can see for example: www.danielpipes.org or www.jihadwatch.org .
c) you also mentioned Inquisition. It's curious than when people want to critisize Spain, they mention this institution in particular. The Tribunal del Santo Oficio was a traditional institution of Roman Catholic Church in the Middle Ages. Most countries had their own office (including German and Britain, for example). It was just issued in Spain mostly by the Catholic King as a part of the plan to bring a unity to the country and to base that unity in religious more that racial characteristics (as in other European countries). But the Religion Wars were a normal fact in all Europe during the XVIth to the XVIII centuries, and the religious persecution was a reality in most of them (for example, Calvino executed Miguel Servet -the Spanish scientist who discovered the blood circulation-, because of differences towards the Trinity; and St. Tomas Moore was killed because of his opposition to Edward VIII divorcing Catalina de Castille and marrying Anna Bolena). Witchs' assasinations were normal in another part of Europe while in Spain those were very rare.
d) the Spanish defeat of Cuba and Phillippines: the problem of that war is the same that we have now: some stupid politians. This has been a constant throughout Spanish history. In the Cantar del Mio Cid (a Middle Ages Spanish -Castillian- hero) it's said: "qué buen vasallo si oviesse buen señor", after he was condemned to exile by the Castillian king Alphonse VI.
e) Studies have now shown that Chinese people were in America in 1453, but their new Emperor condemned them to oblivion. So nowadays you would be Chinese. So they have just waited 5 centuries, because this century is going to be Asiatic. But I am very displeased to tell you that ALL the Spanish fleet in Cavite and the Phillippines was lost. Very few survived. And in the Philippines some resisted 10 years and were called "The Last of the Phillippines". They did not wanted to beleive that Spain had been defeated.
f) It's also curious what someone states about Spanish Taxi-men cheating them. In your country, do all people fulfill the law? Well, the difference is that these stupids intended to steal a few pesetas, and in USA is made in WorldCom and Enron's way.
As a person who has suffered very near ETA terror, I can only tell:
a) firstly, I would never desire that to anybody, not only because of the physical but above all, because of the psycological consequences. I have seen people totally destroyed, not by the killings but by the constant terror, the knowledge of being followed, of being controlled, and knowing that nothing can be done, but taking a decision: flee or resist. Do you know that there some people in Basque Country that have now, in this very moment, a fire extinctor in each edge of the door, just in case young ETA suporters, come in the night and burn their doors, and just burn them? If you just think that this should happen throughout all Spain, I just have to say that your attitude is worst that theirs, because you support them.
b) secondly, the governement nowadays have denied an amount of money (400.000€) to the most important Association for Terrorist Victims. Spanish people have raised it privately in less than one month (amount finally raised: 625.000€).
c) thirdly, we have been fighting ETA long without any kind of international approval, with France protecting ETA terrorists in the 1980's and international demands of prison abuse, that were only made by the terrorists to disminish Spain's legitimate right to judge them. Well, the same judge that has issued this warrant has also taken another decisions about ETA that were so much disputed by nearly all the Spanish judges.
Last but not least, I did vote for the Popular Party, because I think that it was the right thing to do. I'm convinced that the propaganda in favour of Saddam has been more efective and have done more in favour of fanatic Muslims and that is not good for the world. But you did not live here in those days, when all the TVs, nearly all newspapers and radios, just told you that Bush was nearly a demon, Aznar, his puppet, and all the people who were PP supporters were murderers of Iraqi innocent civilians (Pp politicians were even hurt and insulted when they voted that day). Perhaps if you would have lived here as an Spaniard, you would have voted Socialist, and cried to any people who just did not have the same ideas as you: "capullo, asesino, son of a bitch". I was called that before the elections by some socialist demonstrators against the war in Iraq, just as you do in every post that you write with any one who does not give you their support. Very curious for a freedom fighter.
Besides, I am not in favour of the position of our Government with Castro, and I think they are not reasonable nor honourable by supporting him. There is a partiality in Spanish Governement, just the same that USa government had when they were supporting Saddam or Bin Laden in the 1980's. The difference is that most of Spanish are not for that kind of alliance.
Posted by: blueslord at October 20, 2005 03:02 PM
blueslord,
Thank you for that lengthy and respectful comment. I will admit, that I have flown off the handle a times here in this thread. But, just like you complained about the media back during your election, some of those same folks were the first to comment here and parrot the same anti-American rhetoric "illegal war", Cowboy Bush and yadayadayada. The actions of this judge speak for themselves, as well as the action of your government vis a vis its relations with fidel castro. As for my voting socialist because of political pressure, not on your life. Im used to being called imperialista, gusano, the works, and I ca assure you, they would have to kill me.
My grandparents, rest thier souls, are from Santander and I have much family in Spain. And it saddens me and shames me that the overall sentiment of the Spanish people is ridiculously socialist, given the historical proof of its oppression and fallacy.
The actions of the government the Spanish people elected speaks for itself. And you have to admit, filing an arrest warrant for two soldiers fighting in a war outside of your country is the epitome of arrogance.
Posted by: Val Prieto at October 20, 2005 03:16 PM
Soy española y estoy avergonzada por la actuación del gobierno de ZP y del Juez Pedraz, famoso por poner en la calle a terroristas de la ETA.
No todos los españoles somos iguales. Pero gallego no es ningún insulto. Al menos no me lo tomo como tal.
Un saludo,
Posted by: maria at October 20, 2005 03:28 PM
I am not going to dispute you over that, but you also have to admit that USA governments in some aspects are also arrogant. And this judge in particular have no respect from a lot of the population just because of his views with ETA terrorists. The Attorney has filed a complaint against this warrant. And above all, USA has not an extradition treatry with Spain so this is only nonsense.
What really saddens me is that the actions of a governement tend to make us think that ALL the people from a country are just like that. And that is not true. What's more: there are a lot of American artists that come to Spain and greet everyone about the change and that is what the media just covers.
About the results of socialism, I think that foreigners have a lot to do with the idea of picturing them as savers of democracy in Spain. It was just the result of Franco regime that for me it's as just as bad as Castro's.
And about you voting Socialist, I have some friends who are very intelligent and voted Socialist. They just thought that Zapatero was going really to bring peace in Spain. Most of them now are very sad, but there's nothing we can do. We are just tired of war and want to live in peace but it seems that both nationalists and islamists are not going to let us live that way.
And above all, I do not think reasonable to insult all the Spaniards in all ages, whatever their behaviour, just because now the Governement is stupid. And insulting people with no argument, but just your mother is a son of a bitch and your father is a ***, is not going to convince anybody. You have to display facts and admit that there are some people that can have another view of the situation, that is different from yours. The day that all (not only you I must say) comes to these terms of understanding, the world will be different.
Besides, you are more "gallego" that you think: that passionate and irrational way of discussing, pretending that reason comes only from a high tone of voice and of a bitter and heavier insult is a proof of your ancestors, whatever you do to deny them.
Lastly, I have to thank you for the description of my post. Nothing would make me more proud than to be called respectful.
Posted by: blueslord at October 20, 2005 03:55 PM
Hunter & Maria
Galicia was my favorite part of Spain because the people were so friendly and helpful. I look forward to going back and spending more time in Galicia and Northern Spain.
de la Cova
Thanks for the link. All this time I thought the British invented concentration camps during the Boer War.
Posted by: jim at October 20, 2005 03:57 PM
To Jim:
The reality is that concentration camps have existed throughout all History. But at Ancient times, the foreigners did not have any rights because they were just that: foreigners, and so they were made slaves after a period (for example, in Rome, after the triumph of the Roman General) or killed. With the development of the War Law, the conditions intended to be softer. But reality has told me that the Law is not always fulfilled, and that man is most part of it a wolf to other men (homo homini lupus: Hobbes).
Posted by: blueslord at October 20, 2005 04:09 PM
To blueslord: It is refreshing to read your eloquent and respectful comments. I am of the believe that the main reason we (la gran mayoria de los latinos) cannot live in a democratic society and government is because in order for democracy to exist and flourish not only do we have to respect the right of other to disagree with us we have to defend that right. It is obvious tracing our history and the comments from this and other logs that we have a very difficult time doing this.
Posted by: sa at October 20, 2005 04:32 PM
blues,
I am not going to dispute you over that, but you also have to admit that USA governments in some aspects are also arrogant. And this judge in particular have no respect from a lot of the population just because of his views with ETA terrorists. The Attorney has filed a complaint against this warrant. And above all, USA has not an extradition treatry with Spain so this is only nonsense.
What really saddens me is that the actions of a governement tend to make us think that ALL the people from a country are just like that. And that is not true. What's more: there are a lot of American artists that come to Spain and greet everyone about the change and that is what the media just covers.
I couldnt agree more.
About the results of socialism, I think that foreigners have a lot to do with the idea of picturing them as savers of democracy in Spain. It was just the result of Franco regime that for me it's as just as bad as Castro's.
And about you voting Socialist, I have some friends who are very intelligent and voted Socialist. They just thought that Zapatero was going really to bring peace in Spain. Most of them now are very sad, but there's nothing we can do. We are just tired of war and want to live in peace but it seems that both nationalists and islamists are not going to let us live that way.
Again, I agree, and while I am no intellectual by any means, I can tell you, quite positively, that I just a soon shoot myself in the head before voting anything even remotely socialist as the end will be the same.
The world has this view that Americans are warmongers - brought about by the same liberal press you mention - and I can assure you, Americans just want peace like everyone else. Difference is we will not compromise our convictions or dignity in order to achieve it. If the islamofascists want war, a fact they have undoubtedly proven, time and again, ad infinitum, then sooner or later someone has to give it to them.
And above all, I do not think reasonable to insult all the Spaniards in all ages, whatever their behaviour, just because now the Governement is stupid. And insulting people with no argument, but just your mother is a son of a bitch and your father is a ***, is not going to convince anybody. You have to display facts and admit that there are some people that can have another view of the situation, that is different from yours. The day that all (not only you I must say) comes to these terms of understanding, the world will be different.
I dont think I have insulte anyone using any "your mother is this or that" kind of remarks. I can only speak for myself. That I am passionate about my argument? Absolutely.
But try to understand that this is probably your first time here, and in the two years I have been blogging, I have been barraged by people from Spain with everything from adulation for fidel castro to che guevara worshipping to Bush the cowboy and everything else.
I am part Spaniard, and as such it pains me to be derided by Spaniards.
Besides, you are more "gallego" that you think: that passionate and irrational way of discussing, pretending that reason comes only from a high tone of voice and of a bitter and heavier insult is a proof of your ancestors, whatever you do to deny them.
Well, that passion may also come from my Cuban roots, but I dont think I have used a higher tone or heavier insult. I have simply spoken my mind and replied in kind.
Lastly, I have to thank you for the description of my post. Nothing would make me more proud than to be called respectful.
Gracias a ti, blues. Ha sido un placer and I hope you come back to this blog and possibly help further its cause.
Posted by: Val Prieto at October 20, 2005 04:37 PM
Blueslord and Maria,
That just goes to show that there are still many Spaniards that are good intelligent people. I am still proud to have Spanish ancestry.
Posted by: Max at October 20, 2005 04:42 PM
Por cierto, quizás a todos los que se han apresurado a inducir leyes generales sobre todos los españoles porque un juez español haga una locura, os interese saber que la Fiscalia del Estado (nombrada por el Gobierno) ha recurrido la sentencia del juez. Era simplemente un disparate.
Y os lo dice alguien que apoya completamente la guerra contra el terrorismo, que no está nada contento con el gobierno socialista, que no es partidario del apaciguamiento, etc.
Posted by: Just a Spaniard at October 20, 2005 05:09 PM
Well, well, I must say I am totally astonished. I thought I was going to be trashed into the gehenna because of my comments, je, je. Thanks for the compliments, but I was just doing what I think is a human being's duty: to defend their own principles with strength but also with respect from other people's view.
Besides, Do you know that 85% of the benefits that the oil produces in its origins go directly or indirectly, to finance terrorist activities? It's true about the oil for petroleum that you mention, but what if all our machines were moved by other kind of energies that were not derived from oil? Less pollution and less dictatorships (you haven't critisized Chavez of Venezuela, but BBC have interviewed him one of these days and have said that USA have plans to invade his country. Yes, ZP -we resume Zapatero, because of his campaign slogan: Zapatero Presidente-, has a very good relationship with him, only to see that the warships that he was pretending to sell the dictator, had been bought to France, je, je. The problem is he could not sell them, without the permission of American Congress and I think that it was impossible to obtain it). As a result, more peace in the world. And Bush would not have been called a demon and all that.
I would like to know your own views of the situation. I know that nobody wants war, but sometimes war is the quicker solution. And of course, do not tell me why Socialist did not propose this solution in particular. I have asked a lot of them and have answered nothing.
Por último, ya que otros escriben en castellano, no voy a ser yo menos. No tengo mucho tiempo, hoy me excedido en este blog y posiblemente tenga que recuperar el tiempo perdido. Pero prometo que de vez en cuando me pasaré, porque es muy interesante desarrollar un tema: ayuda a poner en orden las ideas.
Sólo pido que discutamos con educación, sólo el respeto a los demás hará de este un mundo más justo y, por ende, más pacífico. Pero por todas partes: obviamente si alguien te mete un dedo en un ojo y te dice respétame, mejor que no le hagas caso porque sólo conseguirás no volver a ver por él.
Posted by: blueslord at October 20, 2005 05:32 PM
Blueslord,
Parece que tienes mas habilidad que yo con el ingles y la diplomacia.
Jejeje
Posted by: name at October 20, 2005 05:42 PM
blues,
Dale un vistazo a los archivos, pa' que veas como le damos fuego a Mini-fidel aqui.
I too feel spent after this thread so I will say adios. Plus, of course, the factthat I have to prepare for la visita de Wilma. Que viene aqui a Miami a joder na' mas.
Posted by: Val Prieto at October 20, 2005 05:50 PM
Val Prieto,
Quiza te interese leer esto(cuidado,que esta escrito por gallegos):
http://nocorrecto.blogspot.com/2005/10/censored-by-ignacio-escolar.html
Posted by: . at October 20, 2005 06:33 PM
Well, I see blueslord was here. Very nice. Val, and all those that we loved the freedom (Cuban and Spanish), we have to maintain our voices united and strong against the tyranny . Against the Castro`s one and against any ideologie "Socialists-liberticida", although have been chosen democratically, as it is the case of Spain.
Saludos desde España!
Posted by: Luis I. Gomez at October 20, 2005 06:39 PM
Dios mio!!
Estos "gallegitos" parecen tener algunas malas pulgas sobre Bush, los EUA y los Cubanos, no conocen la diferencia entre bloqueo y embargo,le pasan la lengua a Castro y al Zapatero,estan llenos de sarcasmo, ignorancia y rencor....ademas tienen la gandinga para insultarnos aqui en nuestro propio blog, los pobres, que ciegos son... no saben que ya en Espana ellos son casi la minoria!! pronto se veran con los turbantes Islamita en sus propias cabezas y ni cuenta se dan a esta altura!!
Que Dios los protega pues Allah los tendra en sus garras y sin piedad si siguen como van!!
Son unos celosos y envidiosos...ya quisieran en un dia de fiesta tener los adelantos medicos, la tecnologia y la buena vida que tenemos nosotros los humildes refugiados Cubanos en esta gran nacion llamada Estados Unidos de America que nos dio refugio de un dictador sin alma y nos abrio sus puertas a la libertad!!!
Val...ya le has dado bastante purgante, ahora mandalos a que hagan caca en otra parte!!
Posted by: carmen at October 20, 2005 08:08 PM
Wow. This was one bloody thread. I'm glad I did not get into it for lack of time today...
Posted by: George L. Moneo at October 20, 2005 09:50 PM
George,
No excuses. Let's hear your opinion of these gaita-blowing, alpargata-wearing, beret-headed gallegos and their twisted concept of what they officially called in the 19th century: "La siempre fiel Isla de Cuba." Yeah, sure.
Posted by: de la Cova at October 21, 2005 12:30 AM
Dear de la Cova,
Spain is a big country, with many people thinking on different ways:
http://www.abc.es/opinion/index.asp?ff=20051021&idn=611705447576
Posted by: Luis I. Gomez at October 21, 2005 01:58 AM
Desde Santander ,Cantabria , España.
Aunque me duela no puedo sino estar de acuerdo con algún comentario vertido en esta pagina.
Quiero decir que soy español y ni me siento avergonzado de serlo ni tampoco orgulloso , ser español no conlleva honra ni vergüenza.
Hoy en España somos gobernados por el peor presidente que uno se pueda imaginar : el Sr. Rodriguez Zapatero (que esconde su primer apellido "Rodriguez" y se hace llamar Zapatero o ZP ).
Ese señor llego al poder tras la masacre acometida en Madrid el nefasto dia 11-M justo dos dia antes de que se celebraran las elecciones generales.
Durante la campaña electoral el señor ZP no se cansó de repetir que si ganaba las elecciones retiraria las tropas españolas de Irak , con lo que convirtio al país que esperaba gobernar , España , en objetivo prioritario de los terroristas.
Porque si todos y cada uno de los 35 países que formaban la coalición que libero a Irak del satrapa eran objetivos potenciales de los terroristas, España se convirtio en objetivo prioritario por el mensaje que mandaba ZP : "si gano las elecciones ,retiro las tropas españolas de Irak".
Así que ¿que mejor que atentar contra un país en el que se puede provocar un vuelco electoral y mas si el aspirante ha prometido una deserción en toda regla?
Resultado ZP ganó las elecciones gracias a esos atentados.
Gracias tambien a la manipulacion y a la violación de la ley electoral , que prohibe cualquier acto politico durante la jornada de reflexion ,es decir el dia anterior a las elecciones.
Se produjeron asaltos organizados contra las sedes del PP en toda España convocados a traves de MSN, el mensaje decia : "todos a Ferraz , pasalo" (Ferraz es la calle madrileña donde está la sede del PP,Partido Popular).
Al grito de "asesinos" y con la quema de varios locales del PP ,todo ello orquestrado por el hoy misistro Sr. Rubalacaba.
Estos echos y la ceguera del electorado español auparon al poder al peor gobernante que haya Tenido España en su historia , y mira que los ha tenido malos.
A pesar de que violando la ley, se asaltaron las sedes del PP al grito de "queremos saber" una vez en el gobierno se han apresurado en cerrar la comision de investigación sobre los atentados.
Comisión que dicho sea de paso no ha arrojado la mas minima luz sobre el caso.
ZP presumia de romper "la foto de las Azores"(Bush,Blair y Aznar) y sí que lo ha hecho para desgracia nuestra , y se ha echo una nueva foto "el trio del pacifico" (Castro,Chavez y Mohamed).
Como veís no es nécesario que nos tireís mas mierda encima , ya tenemos suficiente.
Posted by: Eo at October 21, 2005 02:59 AM
Eo:
I have to correct you in one thing: the SMS that were sent, said "Go to Génova", and Génova St. is really where the principal office of PP is in Spain. And I think that the 11-M Comssion has opened the eyes of a lot of people, especially when we have a lot of data about some facts that are far from clear. You can see them here in a summary.
http://blogs.libertaddigital.com/enigmas
I agree with you in everything else.
name:
Hi! It seems diplomacy and English is not very valuable for some of the people in this blog.
carmen:
I only pity people that judge so fiercely and without any knowledge to all Spaniards. It's as if we say that all Cubans are lovers of Fidel because he has not being thrown over in Cuba. I think that you will know what Unión Liberal Cubana is. Just copy this link in your browser and see where is it:
http://www.cubaliberal.org/aboutus/010101-whereweare.htm
I know the position of my government is hardly considered reasonable, but that is why a lot of Spanish people is critisizing it and one of the reasons why ZP was booed and hissed the National Spanish Day (1st president in whole Spanish history to be hissed and booed that day).
de la Cova:
You should know that gaita is not a Spanish instrument but Celtic. That is why Galician, Welsh, Irish, Scottish and other people in Europe play it.
And really, being Spanish as I am, I have never play the gaita or wore alpargata. These disqualifications that you have being doing all your posts are a bit ridicuolus. Why is worse to play the gaita than the guitar -a Spanish instrument very often used in country songs-? And why is worse to wore alpargata than Nike shoes? Ohh, and the beret is only used in the North of Spain and normally only by old people. What is worse: to wore a beret or a cap? very reasonable arguments, yeah.
For all:
I just forgot yesterday to put this link:
http://www.ajopringue.com/2005/10/20/y-esto-a-que-viene-ahora/
and a new one from this very morning:
http://actualidad.terra.es/articulo/fundacion_hispano_cubana_zapatero_latinoamerica_554191.htm
Not all the Spaniards are the same, but, well, if we are going to be judged by what ZP is doing, then perhaps we can judge all americans by what Jimmy Carter did when he was President and afterwards (for example, that glorious intervention defending the "free elections" in Venezuela). Or perhaps Nixon and the Watergate. Or Bill Clinton, his activity with Lewinsky and his inactivity towards islamists.
Posted by: blueslord at October 21, 2005 05:04 AM
blueslord
Tienes toda la razón donde digo "Ferraz" deberia haber dicho "Genova" .
Bienbenida es la rectificación.
Saludos
Posted by: Eo at October 21, 2005 05:50 AM
Primero:
El bloqueo no mata de hambre al pueblo cubano, sino castro y la falta de libertad -
Segundo:
No incluyamos a todos los españoles en esto. Despues de todo, España tambien ha dado hombres como Arnaz.
Tercero:
Norma: guerra ilegal? Mas muertos que el terrorismo? Esto que dices es falso, no se como alguien seguramente tan " superior intelectualmente" como tu (debes serlo cuando llamas con desden a otra persona "vaquero") puede pasearse por la vida tan desinformada.
El "vaquero" es el hombre mas poderoso del mundo. Tú, usando tus propias palabras, "[Que suerte que eres tan] infeliz e insignificante..."
Posted by: nurian at October 21, 2005 08:27 AM
En la vida todo es dinero. La actitud de muchos (no todos) españoles no es más que una descisión de negocios.
Cuando Cuba sea libre muchos españoles van a tener que pagar un poco más por las putas....y eso simplemente no les favorece económicamente.
Posted by: nurian at October 21, 2005 08:33 AM
link sobre la lucha contra el Islam
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina51007.htm
nurian:
Tu último post sobra: no sólo es zafio, si no que además, no es un razón válida para apoyar a Castro, y creo que la mayoría de los españoles no compartimos lo que dice tu post.
Posted by: blueslord at October 21, 2005 09:06 AM
Bueno blue... a mi siempre me gusta combinar la seria y triste realidad con un poco de humor...
lo malo es que dejo de poner LOL!!! y ja!!!ja!!! y no todo el mundo lo toma como lo que es.
Yo tengo amigos españoles y ellos me dicen que los hombres solteros (o casados, quien sabe!!!) no van a Cuba precisamente a comprar tabacos.
Ahora...que eso solamente no es una razon para apoyar a castro lo sé... como también se que una puta barata no solo se puede encontrar en Cuba - y que no seria "una decision de negocios" como digo en mi post-
but I'll get better with the LOLs!!!! and the JA!! JAs!!!
Posted by: nurian at October 21, 2005 10:19 AM
Nurian,
El diario de Raúl Castro Ruz, publicado en "Fragmentos de un diario escrito en el presidio," Bohemia, July 26, 1963, señala que cuando él llegó a Santiago de Cuba el 25 de julio de 1953, se hospedó en el hotel Perla de Cuba. Castro dice que escuchó en la habitación contigua a un gallego argumentando con una mulata prostituta sobre el precio de sus servicios para que le diera rebaja.
Típico del carácter insensitivo y tacaño de los gallegos en Cuba. Estos son echos históricos que no se pueden cambiar atacando a los norteamericanos, que nada tiene que ver con los abusos y el terror que implantaron en Cuba durante el siglo 19 los "feroces iberos." El sanguinario y asesino capitán general Valeriano Weyler, quien masacró al pueblo de Cuba con la reconcentración, le han levantado una estatua en Islas Canarias.
La biografía del gallego Angel Castro Argiz, el soldado mercenario que engendró al Monstruo, titulada "Todo el tiempo de los cedros," publicada en Cuba en 2003, dice en la página 51 sobre la reconcentración:
"Sólo las estaciones de Guanajay, Mariel, Candelaria, San Cristóbal y Artemisa albergan a 60,000 personas hambrientas y sin hogar, y el número de aquellos que han encontrado la muerte, según los más conservadores de esta colosal masacre autorizada, se estima que llegue a 10,000 desde principios de este año."
Esto fue escrito en 1897 y solo se refiere a Pinar del Río, una de las seis provincias cubanas.
Los gallegos jamás se han arrepentido o pedido disculpas al pueblo cubano por estas barbaridades. A pesar que esto no aparece en sus libros de historia, los cubanos nunca olvidaremos a estas víctimas inocentes de la intransigencia gallega.
Posted by: de la Cova at October 21, 2005 11:11 AM
nurian
"Cuando Cuba sea libre muchos españoles van a tener que pagar un poco más por las putas....y eso simplemente no les favorece económicamente."
Te equivocas en algunas cosas :
1ºEl turismo sexual no es una invención española.
2ºNo es necesario ir hasta Cuba para encontrar una puta, en cualquier ciudad las hay de todas las nacionalidades incluida la cubana.
3ºNo todos los españoles somos unos "puteros" que viajamos a Cuba para aprovecharnos de unas chiquillas a las que el regimen del dictador Castro no les deja otra opción que venderle su cuerpo a unos pervertidos que abusan de su necesidad.
Sí coíncido contígo en el deseo de que algún dia Cuba séa libre quizas esas chicas no se vieran en la necesidad de prostituírse....pero parece que solo te interesa hacerle pagar más a los españoles ¿te irá mejor el negocio?
Posted by: Eo at October 21, 2005 11:28 AM
Eo:
Dices que me equivoco, pero en realidad no puedo estar equivocada en algo que no dije.
- nunca dije que el turismo sexual lo inventaron los españoles
- nunca dije que era necesario ir a Cuba pa' encontrarse un puta
- Tampoco dije que todos los españoles son unos puteros- si no me equivoco, hasta especifique: "no todos"
En cuanto a tu ultimo parrafo tengo la opcion de ignorarlo (a palabras necias oidos sordos)
o tambien puedo rebajarme un poquito hasta sonar con tanta poca clase como tu y preguntarte cuanto dinero ganas, despues decirte cuanto gano yo y llegar a la conclusion de que si algun dia mi sentido del buen gusto desapareciera por completo, podria yo pagarte a ti- pero no- no creo que eso sea muy "lady-like" que digamos.
De cualquier manera: ni frio ni calor me dio el comentario- porque con mejores ojos veo a una prostituta que a un izquierdista, por poner un ejemplo.
Posted by: nurian at October 21, 2005 01:07 PM
De la Cova:
You keep on stating that the Spaniards have not ask for forgiveness about some atrocities that were comitted when the Cuba War. And that we do not have all those things in our books of History. Well, let me tell you, that in my school I learned abour them.
http://www.artehistoria.com/frames.htm?http://www.artehistoria.com/historia/personajes/6757.htm
Tras ser nombrado capitán general de Cuba en 1896, obtuvo algunas victorias en la lucha contra los independentistas cubanos, SI BIEN LA CAMPAÑA QUE EMPRENDIÓ FUE DURAMENTE CRITICADA. Así, su destitución en 1897 se pensó como una forma de evitar la entrada de Estados Unidos en el conflicto. En su nuevo cargo, como Capitán general de Cataluña, desplegó medidas similares tras los incidentes de la Semana Trágica (1909). Escribió "Mi mando en Cuba", publicado en 1911.
http://www.mgar.net/cuba/weyler.htm
Fracasada la política de reconciliación de Martínez Campos, Cánovas le eligió para someter la insurrección (1896). Empleó una táctica de guerra total: organizó campos de concentración para los campesinos, destruyó los edificios que pudieran servir de refugio a los sublevados, prohibió la zafra, etc. Los norteamericanos le dieron entonces los calificativos de "carnicero" y "tigre de Manigua". Sobre el general Weyler se tejió una leyenda negra que ha llegado a nuestros días. Fue un militar íntegro que enviaron a Cuba a su pesar, para que ganara la guerra. Si dura fue su actuación, más dura fue la de los insurrectos. Relata el propio Weyler un suceso de 1870. Enterado el mando español de que dos compañías habían sido aniquiladas a machetazos por los insurrectos, le ordenaron acudir al lugar de los hechos:
"Pude recoger todavía algunos soldados con vida. Entre aquel montón de sangrientos despojos humanos, un cadáver, en actitud de parar con el brazo un machetazo en la cabeza, tenía el corte en la frente , y la mano segada; el gesto de terror impreso en su rostro era tan intenso que no se ha borrado nunca de mi memoria".
Sus procedimientos guerreros, concentración de poblaciones en lugares determinados, las trochas y otras innovaciones , las llevaron exactamente igual a cabo los norteamericanos en su guerra de Secesión, en la I Guerra Mundial, en Corea y en Vietnam. Entre 1896 y 1897 cayó sobre Weyler la primera campaña periodística de la historia; una obra maestra de William Hearst, el inventor de la prensa amarilla y de la calumnia rentable. Pese a haber alcanzado algunos éxitos militares, su política cerró el paso a la negociación y facilitó la intervención de EEUU. Muerto Cánovas, Sagasta le destituyó (oct.1897).
So he learned from the Americans and their Civil War. Hmmmm. curious.
Even that he is not very well remembered: you can see why reading the link.
Lastly, notice that when I began my first post I began saying that I feel proud of my people IN GENERAL. Castro is also Cuban and I must say, you do not feel very proud of him, do you?
nurian:
I beg your pardon if I understood wrongly your post, but I think that for a human being is very tragic being reduced to that. I must say Cuba is not the only country where to make a sexual trip, and all of them has one thing in common: poverty, whatever the reason is. I know that here are a lot of people that goes there for a young woman. But there are also some mixed couples that come to live here and marry. I know some of these couples and they really are very happy.
By the way, Eo is not a leftist, he is just a "español cabreado", just like me.
Posted by: blueslord at October 21, 2005 02:15 PM
nuriam
No sé como has llegado a la conclusión de que yo sea un izquierdista , ahora me entero!!!
En cuanto al dinero que yo gano te contesto : menos de lo que me pagan y tampoco me interesa lo mas minimo cuanto ganas tu , y mucho menos que me pagues por hacerte un "lady-lake" (que no sé ni lo que es).
Lo que si sé es lo que tu has escrito : "Cuando Cuba sea libre muchos españoles van a tener que pagar un poco más por las putas....y eso simplemente no les favorece económicamente."
Rezumas tanto odio que parece inutil contestarte.
Posted by: Eo at October 21, 2005 02:30 PM
Quiero decirles a los amigos cubanos, que la gran mayoria del pueblo español está contra el genocida canalla de Fidel Castro... No todos los españoles compartimos la complicidad de este hijo de puta extremista que gobierna España (esperemos que por poco tiempo)...El mariconazo de Zapatero (no es un insulto, aqui todo el mundo sabe que Zapatero es homosexual y masón, aunque hipocritamente se mantiene dentro del armario) NO REPRESENTA NI AL 40% de los españoles, y aun asi es muy dudoso que todos sus votantes sean tan extremistas y tan antidemocratico como lo es el Gobierno de España, que está siendo financiado por el Rey de Marruecos...
Posted by: Lucaswar at October 21, 2005 03:30 PM
Aunque a mí mismo me sorprenda, creo que los españoles nos merecemos gran parte de lo que aquí nos dicen. España se ha convertido en una vergüenza de país que apoya a genocidas, terroristas e islamistas. No estamos en el bando de los países libres, ésa es la realidad. Y además, la gentuza del P$o€ que nos gobierna se alegra de que la situación sea ésa.
And don't forget, dear comrades, the 11M massacre stinks to P$O€. Moslems were only pawns used to mislead to Al-Qaeda. Greetings!
Posted by: sh at October 21, 2005 03:36 PM
Eo,
Tu tienes la costumbre de no leer bien los posts, verdad? primero dices que estoy equivocada en una pila de cosas que nunca dije.
Luego, no se como has llegado a la conclusion de que yo pienso que eres izquierdista... simplemente, dije que me cain mejor las putas que ellos... si te quiero llamar izquierdista hubiera dicho: "...que los izquierdistas como tu"
Yo se lo que dije, y hay otro post respondiendote- no se por que pero ese, que era el post menos serio de los dos que puse, fue el que mas le picó a dos o tres aqui-
Y me sorprende que digas que yo "rezumo tanto odio" (ja! ja! de verdad que te quedo dramatica y pico la frasesita papi- ) cuando en realidad, tomando en cuenta el ultimo parrafito ese que me tiraste en tu primer escrito hacia mi, fui super buena contigo- te lleve suave...como dicen por ahi.
Posted by: nurian at October 21, 2005 04:19 PM
lucaswar and sh, you rule!!!!
Posted by: nurian at October 21, 2005 04:26 PM
