August 24, 2007

Update From Miami

Watching Polos Opuestos on Channel 22 here in Miami, and the word is that the rumors of fidel's death are just that. Host Maria Elvira Salazar interviewed Miami Mayor Manny Diaz, and the mayor emphasized that there have been no movement of law enforcement to handle the rumored situation. Most importantly, Diaz said that the city is maintaining contact with the federal government and that the feds would notify the city once they receive the official word. There have been no unusual movement of Coast Guard personnel or vessels either, according to Diaz.

Jesus Marzo Fernandez, ex-high ranking Cuban official, was on the set of the show and stated that he has been in contact with several Cuban officials and they confirmed that there is no unusual movement of Cuban military forces. They showed a clip from tonight's Cuban TV Mesa Redonda program which was showing regular programming (with none other than Miami resident and castro agent Max Lesnik in the audience!).

Marzo did say something interesting, that today's rumors did not come from Havana, but from someone much closer to the exile community, likely in Miami, and that Havana is just fine with the rumors since they make the exile community look foolish.

Take this for what it's worth, and I guess it's still possible that the guy is indeed dead, but it's looking more and more like today's news was yet another false rumor.

As I mentioned in a comment earlier today, wake me up when fifo is officially dead.

UPDATE 8:50 PM: Marzo just said that he firmly believes that heads of state - including the President of the United States, would be among the first to know of fidel's death. This supports what Mayor Diaz said about their contacts with the federal government, since Miami would obviously be a flash point in the event of the big news.

Posted by Robert M at August 24, 2007 08:32 PM |

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Well, it still means that the Cuban government will have to produce a live fidel, or they will be the fools.

Posted by: R S [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2007 09:16 PM

Havana might be fine with the exiles in Miami being foolish for going for the rumors that fidel was dead. That is ok, BUT fidel will be dead sooner or later and we will all celebreate then! Miami will have the last laugh!!!!!!

Posted by: jose dominguez [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2007 09:17 PM

R S,

Marzo did say that if the rumor did originate from Havana, they would show a live fidel the following day to rub it in. I don't think that's going to happen in this case.

Posted by: Robert [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2007 09:21 PM

Robert,

Still, fidel's absence looks....strange.

Posted by: R S [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2007 09:41 PM

as I said before, I'm gonna wait until it's confirmed. I figure he's been dead MONTHS.

Posted by: Caltechgirl [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2007 10:06 PM

He's already cremated IMO

Posted by: Felix Ricardo [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2007 10:11 PM

Val no te apures...Lo matamos el viernes que viene

Posted by: Abajofidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2007 10:18 PM

Val:

I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt because after reading your blog for over three years I feel we are very similar. We are honored to have been born to a Cuban family which has sacrificed so much to make the lives of their children better. When you write about your dad, you are putting into words what I feel for my own father.

Unfortunately, the headline you put on the previous thread by stating that Fidel is dead in bold, making it seem like it was a done deal, was foolish and completely not necessary.

What was the rush to "break" this news. Your quote about "not wanting to miss the show" smacked off grandstanding, as if you couldn't be scooped by anyone else.

Your hard work and dedication over the years in making this blog the place to go for news on Cuba also comes with a responsibility, like it or not. We come to you for factual news and posting that comment as a headline in big bold letters hurts your credibility.

You could have easily said "here is what I have heard, take it with a grain of salt", but instead in your zeal to not "miss the show" you inadvertintly hurt us.

The minute I saw this post I called my parents and they were in tears over the phone over this news. I figured there was no way this could not have been true since you posted on your site. I know you didn't mean this to come out this way, but your words do have consequences.

I just felt that this needed to be said. Perhaps my anger is misguided because I was really hoping that he was finally gone, hoping that I could celebrate with my parents that they have outlived the bearded bastard.

I will continue to read and I thank you once again for all the blood, sweat and tears you have put into this blog.

Posted by: Angel Rodriguez [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2007 10:23 PM

If the Bastard isn't dead yet...he will be soon!

The only way to dispel this "rumor" is to produce the old demon. I don't think we look foolish at all. The fools are in La Habana who won't or can't show the fiend in person.

As someone said above...WE will have the last laugh!!!

Posted by: mavi [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2007 10:32 PM

I talked to someone about an hour ago, who knows someone in a position to know,and I do not doubt this source. Word is he is dead. Until I see fidel live in Cuba, I´m sticking to it. If I have to eat crow later, so be it.

Posted by: Ziva [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2007 10:38 PM

I'm surprised at how disappointed I feel, and since I'm not Cuban I imagine those who are feel the disappointment even more intensely.

Whenever the news come, I hope it's the start of liberation for Cuba.

Posted by: Retread [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2007 10:40 PM

I believe he is as dead as a door nail, and has been for quite sometime.

But this rumors are to TEST US.

Lets ignore the rumors, until our goverment come out and tell us, they will know first hand.

Remember someone among us in Miami, is the culprit all of this rumors, and that person is on Fidel Castro's side.

Posted by: lapuntilla [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2007 10:52 PM

Well, that just plain old SUCKS.

Posted by: Claudia [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2007 11:07 PM

Dead, dead, dead.

Posted by: Ziva [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2007 11:27 PM

Ziva , please tell me later on what the crow tasted like

Posted by: Abajofidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2007 11:40 PM

Just before the missile crisis when it was merely Cubans saying they were there this was ignored.

Posted by: Larry Daley [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 25, 2007 12:55 AM

Abajofidel, if I have to eat it, I will describe it in detail for you...but, like I said, I trust my source, I am sure, 100%. Mi amigo, fidel es muerte!

Posted by: Ziva [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 25, 2007 01:22 AM

Although, for all practical purposes (in both reality and spirit) the 'Revolution' was over the minute Fidel entered La Habana in January 1959, Fidel's 'Robolution' will die the day his death is finally announced. The regime knows this.

The psychological component of this effect cannot be overestimated by any measure.

The bad and the good is that Castro made himself to be the 'Robolution' among the people. When he ends, it all ends. He was instrumental in creating a 'Jim Jones' mentality in the Cuban life. They have all lived their Guyana experience. You try to leave, you get shot. You either drink the coolaid, or you get shot. Life in Cuba, was either way - you lose. No wonder so many want to leave on a balsa and risk it all.

Take heart. Once the Evil Witch is pronounced DEAD. The people will lose their fear. You can mark it down.

Posted by: LaConchita [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 25, 2007 02:01 AM

Come on, this rumour starts up every couple of months or so. You're all getting played. We're supposed to have more dignity and class than this.

A couple of posters before me mentioned us having the last laugh - that's BS. Whether you like it or not, *he's* got the last laugh. He's grown old, lived his life exactly the way he wanted it (much better than his fellow countrymen, that's certain), and will die king of his own country. Castro's death was never in question, the only question always was how and when. Odds are he will die peacefully, at home, when he very well feels like it, cabezon till the end.

What about all of us? Look at yourselves - you're so fixated on this man whom you despise so much to the point where some abuelita in Miami mumbles in her sleep that Castro's dead (a good dream for her that night) and within the hour Cubans in Miami are calling Cubans in Union City saying it's true, and you all buy it wholesale. The HP is going to die with a smile on his face knowing that you all bought the "false alarms" of his death for so many years hook, line, and sinker, and that your daily happiness or disappointment hinged on whether Castro had a good bowel movement that morning or not.

Don't get me wrong. When he finally croaks I'll shed tears. They'll be for my grandparents (may they rest in peace), parents, aunts and uncles whose stories, if you're Cuban, are all too familiar to you already. They'll be for my family still there, and every other Cuban who deserves a better life and might very well get to see it.

Am I going to go out dancing in the street because some two-bit dictator got to grow old and die in his own bed peacefully and in luxury? Hell no. I'll sit at home, crack open a good bottle of scotch, and spend a bittersweet day thinking about those in my family who never lived to see the day. I'll be happy he's finally cold and stiff, but I'll be sad that it didn't happen 25, 35, or over 50 years ago, and I'll think about those whose lives would have turned out so differently had it happened earlier.

I'll believe the rumours when I finally see a picture of his cold corpse.

Posted by: drool [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 25, 2007 03:19 AM

This statement:

"They showed a clip from tonight's Cuban TV Mesa Redonda program which was showing regular programming (with none other than Miami resident and castro agent Max Lesnik in the audience!)."
is false.

Mesa Redonda "regular programming" is nothing but regular. First of all, the moderator, Randy Alonso Falcon has not hosted the program since the rumor started. Arlen Rodriguez Derivet, a state security officer from the city of Guantanamo, where she has a history of crimes and abuses, and also the co-author "El Camajan" (a book written to discredit dissident Elizardo Sanchez Santacruz), has been hosting the show.
Most of the prgramming has been old documentaries.

Last night the topic was Eduardo Chibas and one has to wonder why is Chibas relevant now. The regimen never talked about him before. Suddenly he has been resurrected from the forbidden past. And surprisingly, one of the guest was Armando Hart, the father of Celia Hart who said in Venezuela that Che Guevara was the Trotsky of Cuba, suggesting that Castro is the Stalin. Also she proclaimed she was a "Guevarista" a rare manifestation in a country that the only permissible cult is to the coma-andante in Chief.

Max Lesnick was interview and we should take note of his statements. One day he and many others, will have to answer to a democratic Cuba tribunal.

Posted by: Juan [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 25, 2007 06:43 AM

At the risk of sounding stupid, what is this thing with Chibas? Wasn't he the guy running around with the briefcase supposedly full of evidence, and when he had to produce it, killed himself? How does he suit anyone?

Posted by: ruth [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 25, 2007 07:32 AM

One major issue is our credibility. No one is saying not to chill the bottle. But if we keep crying wolf then when we do need to rally the troops who will believe it? Thats my point.

Posted by: pototo [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 25, 2007 07:54 AM

Juan,

OK, so I'm not a regular watcher of Mesa Redonda. After all, I live in Miami. What I meant should be pretty obvious...the show went on as scheduled, regardless of whether the host was Randy Alonso, Max Lesnik or whomever. Looking back at my comment on the post, that in itself is pretty irrelevant since the Cuban people will be the last to know.

Posted by: Robert [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 25, 2007 11:09 AM

Rober,

What I ment was that the statements you got from Polos Opuestos regarding the shots from Mesa Redonda being normal is false, not your post. It was not personally directed to you, but since you are now in the realm of the "obvious" I will tell you one more time that the Mesa Redonda is not running normally, as i explained. I also live in Miami.

Posted by: Juan [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 25, 2007 12:39 PM

Robert,

What I ment was that the statements you got from Polos Opuestos regarding the shots from Mesa Redonda being normal is false, not your post. It was not personally directed to you, but since you are now in the realm of the "obvious" I will tell you one more time that the Mesa Redonda is not running normally, as i explained. I also live in Miami.

Posted by: Juan [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 25, 2007 12:41 PM

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