September 26, 2007

Cane: Let's put it to a vote.



Posted by Henry Louis Gomez at September 26, 2007 12:29 PM



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Im not biting on either of these. If you wantto reword them, perhaps, but I wont answer as they stand.

Posted by: Val Prieto [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 26, 2007 12:49 PM

I'm open to suggestions. What exactly don't you like about them?

Posted by: Henry "Conductor" Gomez [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 26, 2007 01:04 PM

"Offensive" as a opposed to "stereotypical" Im no longer offended because its so commonplace that the offense has already lost its edge.

and you cant simply look at the program from an entertainment standpoint. There is nothing new here. This is Dallas with the uniqueness of being Cuban. and that uniqueness is rather shoddily portrayed.

Posted by: Val Prieto [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 26, 2007 01:22 PM

Henry, here's a suggestion, "I did not watch it." Val, thanks for answering my question, indirectly, but you did answer it with luxury of details.

Posted by: Angel Garzon [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 26, 2007 01:53 PM

It's a show and therefore it can and should be judged not only by whether it's sterotypical (or offensive) but also as to whether we were entertained. Remember that the show's purpose is ostensibly to entertain whether we see it that way or not. If America is not entertained by this show it will go the way of dodo bird.

Besides sterotypes aren't necessarily negative. The Peñas were a very sterotypical family. But there were a lot of positive sterotypes there. I want to know if people felt offended. If the characters in the show bothered them.

You have essentially already said that it did bother you so whether you vote or not, you have spoken.

Posted by: Henry "Conductor" Gomez [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 26, 2007 01:56 PM

[OT] Henry, the blogpoll server(s) seems to be getting clobbered (Not enough bandwidth?) and is taking awhile to load, if at all, just giving you a heads up in case you get complaints about it.

Posted by: Angel Garzon [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 26, 2007 01:58 PM

Angel,

This is a self segregating question. I'm not trying to find out what percentage of people saw the show. I want to know from those who did whether they liked it as an entertainment property and whether they felt the depiction of Cubans was offensive to their sensibilities. So far it's a pretty even split among our audience.

Posted by: Henry "Conductor" Gomez [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 26, 2007 02:00 PM

Henry, I was being facetious, I should've inserted a smiley to indicate it, my mistake (I was tempted to write ¨my bad,¨ ...upon thoughtful reflection...nah!!!,) please accept my apology for the omission, good thing I've an E&O insurance policy, otherwise I'd be in deep pacotilla :-)

Posted by: Angel Garzon [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 26, 2007 02:39 PM

It's a no win situation I think when it comes to stereotypes. Wouldn't we be complaining if the characters on Cane were grilling burgers instead of a lechon asado? It's tough to walk that line.

I didn't see the show, but I understand CBS trying to put the best actors possible. Like it or not Jimmy Smits will get an audience and that is what this is all about. It happens all the time. I have friends still upset that the Mexican mariachi was played by Antonio Banderas.

And by the way, my brother in law who is from Camaguay looks a lot like Smits and my aunt used to scream Ave Maria all the time and you can't get more Cuban than my aunt.

Posted by: Angel Rodriguez [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 26, 2007 04:12 PM

I don't know where people get the impression that "Ave Maria" isn't a Cuban expression. My very Cuban grandparents and great-grandmother used it all the time.

Posted by: Robert [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 26, 2007 09:34 PM

I agree that many Cubans used to say Ave Maria. There was even a very popular ad for Hatuey beer in Cuba B.C that said:"Ave Maria Pelencho, que bien me siento, con Hatuey mi compay, Hatuey bien fria."
Unfortunately, the announcer for Hatuey was Manolo Ortega, who later became a big time communist.

Posted by: therealcuba [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 26, 2007 10:34 PM

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