Henry:

Given the recent information about Obama's ties to socialism, I'm not so sure anymore just how much of an issue he takes with the che flag. If che is the hero of socialism/communism, Obama may have squelched the little flap to shut people up but maybe che is one of his idols, too.

Man, if that doesn't smell.

Great summary Henry. I think you should leave advertising and become a Journalist full time.

Claudia,

Giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Venti,

No way. Advertising pays a lot better.

And Daniel Ortega endorses him too:

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/02/14/america/LA-POL-Nicaragua-Ortega-Obama.php

Well I guess, I should take a 4 year vacation to St. Lucia or something. This country is on it's way down like a ton of bricks.

I suppose we should be grateful this didn't happen in Miami. The uproar would have been much louder, but so would the media attempt to portray it as an example of "intransigent extremists" trying to squash "free expression." I don't have to tell any Miami people which Herald columnist(s) would have written irate pieces defending Maria Isabel and trashing "those Cubans." Come to think of it, such a column may still appear in the Herald eventually.

Henry, the link on point 6 "pictures of che" doesn't work. I don't know if they took it out or if there is an error on the link. George

Maria Isabel seems to be a loaded Cannon, she had all kinds of problems in Houston.

Some facts:

- Prrecinct Captains are not campaign staff. They're volunteers.

- The Obama campaign has thousands of precinct captains throughout the country.

- Thousands of people have taken pictures with Barack Obama and have opened up their own webpages on the official site. That doesn't mean they have official ties to the campaign or that the campaign condones or supervises their actions.

- The Obama campaign has over 800,000 supporters on its website.

- The FoxNews affiliate that you refer to has also gone out of its way to state that the office in the video has no official ties to the campaign.

- Senator Obama's campaign condemned the use of the flag and called it "offensive to the Cuban-American community" and "inappropriate."

Some facts:

- Prrecinct Captains are not campaign staff. They're volunteers.

- The Obama campaign has thousands of precinct captains throughout the country.

- Thousands of people have taken pictures with Barack Obama and have opened up their own webpages on the official site. That doesn't mean they have official ties to the campaign or that the campaign condones or supervises their actions.

- The Obama campaign has over 800,000 supporters on its website.

- The FoxNews affiliate that you refer to has also gone out of its way to state that the office in the video has no official ties to the campaign.

- Senator Obama's campaign condemned the use of the flag and called it "offensive to the Cuban-American community" and "inappropriate."

George, I fixed the link.

Missile. First off you know very well that the VAST MAJORITY of people that work on campaigns are in fact volunteers. A campaign without volunteers is not a campaign. So what volunteers do does matter. You can't have them out there being surrogates only when they do the right things and then disavow them when they they show their true colors.

Also Obama has not uttered the words "Che Guevara" in relation to the "inappropriate" flag. It's a namby pamby disavowal and nothing more than spin. It would not kill Obama to issue a 3-sentence statement denouncing Guevara as a Marxist revolutionary with a lot of innocent Cuban blood on his hands. But it would hurt his standing with the guevara-loving moonbats that make up a substantial portion of his base. That's why he won't do it.

Henry,

Clearly campaigns have a lot of volunteers. But the same way that I'm sure McCain's or Thompson's campaign may have (had) xenophobes that hate Hispanics, that doesn't reflect poorly upon the candidate or his campaign.

Volunteers are not surrogates of the campaign either.

Why should Senator Obama say the words "Che Guevara"? The campaign has made it clear that the actions of Maria Isabel are unacceptable and that the Che flag is highly offensive to Cuban-Americans and all Americans.

I know, I know Henry. And from what I remember of my advertising days, it was a lot more fun too!

Missile, where exactly did they say Because that neither was the statement on their website nor the response I got when I wrote to the campaign to express disappointment (not even outrage) at the Cuban Che Flag.

that the actions of Maria Isabel are unacceptable and that the Che flag is highly offensive to Cuban-Americans and all Americans.

Should've been in my post above.

If a GOP candidate had a "volunteer" with a KKK symbol in his "volunteer office" the MSM would not draw a distinction. One of the reasons Ron Paul has no credibility is because among his supporters are 9/11 truthers and white supremacist groups.

Obama should mention Guevara by name to eliminate the doubts among the voters that he may not understand how troublesome it is to a lot of us. He doesn't "have to do" anything. Doing the right thing has consequences and candidates often do the safe thing. But don't talk to me about integrity if he doesn't want to face the issue head-on and perhaps alienate the moonbats that may be significant in number in his campaign that's fine. If there truly only are 14 people out of 800,000 that think like Maria Isabel then he has nothing to lose except maybe 14 votes. You know as well as I do the reality is that many, many, many Democrats believe in the Che fairy tale. And missile you told me we needed to do more to dispel the myths of Guevara. Why can't your candidate help us with that? He comes here and talks about Cuba and freedom and won't address one of the biggest propaganda lies put out there by the regime? What the fuck is that?

venti,

http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/02/12/on_reports_of_an_inappropriate.php

Regarding Henry's quote: "No way. Advertising pays a lot better."

Ahem . . . ya got THAT right.

ba dum chh

Henry, is it my memory failing, or this that statement worded differently? I could swear when I read his statement days ago (when it first posted) it didn't say half of what it says now.

Venti,

No, your memory is just fine. There was a sleight of hand. They updated the posting and added portions to it.

Oh man this needs to be featured on Drudge. Please, please, please.

Henry, your analysis on Maria Isabel is an eye opener. WOW! Excellent piece of research. Good work.

CubaWatch,

ROFL. We have to get together for beers again.

Missile, I think that Henry's point is precisely that "Che Guevara" was not uttered -- this was a missed opportunity to combat some of the misinformation out there about Che.

Larissa -

- Prrecinct Captains are not campaign staff. They're volunteers.

Maria Isabel attended volunteer training at "Camp Obama 16" in September 2007 in Chicago. She isn't just some volunteer who showed up one day. On the KHOU video she is clearly speaking with out of state campaign workers urging them to come to Texas. So her association with the campaign is more than just passing.

- The Obama campaign has thousands of precinct captains throughout the country.

Yes, and they should exert more control over them.

- Thousands of people have taken pictures with Barack Obama and have opened up their own webpages on the official site. That doesn't mean they have official ties to the campaign or that the campaign condones or supervises their actions.

She has LOTS of pictures of Obama. And there is a picture of her hugging Michelle Obama. She also has pictures of her at a small private reception for Obama. This is different than the typical meet and greet picture.

- The Obama campaign has over 800,000 supporters on its website.

They need to edit out the wackos and objectionable postings. Maybe I should open up a weblog on their site in praise of Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. I wonder how long that would last.

- The FoxNews affiliate that you refer to has also gone out of its way to state that the office in the video has no official ties to the campaign.

Under legal threats from the Obama campaign?

- Senator Obama's campaign condemned the use of the flag and called it "offensive to the Cuban-American community" and "inappropriate."

A weak repudiation at best and no mention of Che.

Estimados

La respuesta en pagina web sobre la mutilacion de la bandera cubana con la imagen del asesino Che en oficinas de voluntarios del aspirante a ser presidente Obama, no representan una rectificacion sino una notificacion sin conclusion alguna lo cual en mi modesta opinion complace al candidato lo que representa el Che Guevara, al no ser que los voluntarios pidan disculpas o que prohiban a ambas oficinas un respaldo que le perjudica y las cierren. Ninguna de las dos logicas opciones han tenido efecto.

Abajo el enlace para escribir a la central del cadidato, como el mensaje que envie.

Saludos
Miriam

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On Reports of an Inappropriate Flag in a Texas Obama Office
February 12, 2008

"This is a volunteer office that is not in any way controlled by the Obama campaign. We were disappointed to see this picture because it is both offensive to many Cuban-Americans -- and Americans of all backgrounds -- and because it does not reflect Senator Obama’s views. Barack Obama has been very clear in putting forward a Cuba policy that is based on one principle: freedom for the Cuban people." -- Obama Campaign

From Houston Fox News:

"The office featured in this video is funded by volunteers of the Barack Obama Campaign and is not an official headquarters for his campaign."

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Above answer with no actions to follow, like to ask the volunteers to take out the cuban flag and give a public apology or to prohibited the continue of such office with those volunteers pro murderer like Che,in a way is a consent to the display.
Che Guevara wanted to destroy USA, and our way of life.Che Guevara killed hundreds just for not having his opinion.
Please read more about Che at:

http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1535

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/2/23/171252.shtml

My father in law was one of his victims.

Miriam Mata
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you guys...you are all missing the whole point here...how can obama possibly control what everybody, volunteer or not, do on their offices? what is worse, is that, maria isabel, probably doesn't even realize, or worse, ACTUALLY DOES REALIZE, who dr. guevara really was and his perpetual icon..for those of you who never met. dr. guevara...I DID, in guatemala, 1953, He and I were rooming in the same boarding house, during the central american, agrarian reform..i represented Banco de Fomento, Honduras. Among his 'charismatic, gallant demeanor" (sound familiar?) was his innate psychotic effusion of always submerging himself in books..among his works, was Manifesto: Three Classic Essays on How to Change the World, by Ernesto Che Guevara, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, & Rosa Luxemburg, Ocean Press (NY), 2005, ISBN 1876175982 Here dr. guevara undertakes the absolutism of marxist science..CHANGE OF SOCIETAL CONSCIENCE, POTICAL POWER, SOCIAL CHANGE (sound familiar?)A proven tactic employed by Mr. B Hussein Obama, is precisely in line with his postulation physics and politics: Mirror of Desire..Say to people what they want to hear His message is:
I am a reasonable and smart guy, and I can bring people together with broad perpectives and bring about 'change" What people hear is: He is a smart and reasonable guy, and HE WILL HEAR WHAT I SAY., AND BECAUSE MY IDEAS ARE SMART AND REASONABLE, he will own then as his. Therefore he doesn't have to convince people HIS ideas are superior, but rather that his audience's are..very feasible? This is a take on the pacifist resistance of the revolution proposed by otherwise Hegeliam revolution..of vegetarian communism. My friends, B Hussein Obama..will choke on the tofu..and the like of the carnivores, Chavez, Morales,and Ortega will line up in Camp DAvid. Che we can believe in!!!!

JFK=Obama...that's right..N. Kruschev, knew enough of JFK pusilanicous character..will Ahmadinenjad, have his Bay of Piglets(oops sorry that wouldn't cut the 72 vitgins) but instead we will be looking at the Persian Missile Crisis? or worse, another Cuban_-A-la-Raul missile crisis..I remember when Fidel had to be exiled to Chile during his coniptous tantrum. I was there. Chileans were sick of the boisterous caribbean accent, which I posses.."please claudia toen down your island accent...nobody wants to hear it around here"..Ask Felix Rodriguez, Matos, how they remember. Che..Freedom of expression for Maria Isabel? of course..self censorship is a total different discourse...My fellow Cuban-Americans, I apologize to you in her name..she's deranged.

First of all Maria Isabel is Cuban so she knows who Che was. Secondly she's a volunteer but a very visible one the campaign was putting out there to field media opportunities in Texas.

Che was not a doctor. He never graduated from medical school, there is no evidence of it.