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Where do they get those matching pink Bob Dylan hats?

the one on the far right looks like a man in drag...

Posada Carriles is like an albatross around our necks. He is obviously a loose canonball in need of attention and has caused us more harm with his declarations than any good he could have ever done in the past. Sometimes I wonder if he is a Castro agent. He probably isn't, but since he surfaced, he has been more helpful to castro than Wayne Smith, Ana Menendez, Oscar Corral, and Lisandro Perez all rolled up in one.

If Posada-Carriles is an albatross around the neck of the Cuban exile community, he is nothing compared to the murderous albatross hanging around the neck of the liberals and progressives that continue to support a regime that has been responsible for over 100,000 innocent deaths, and the torture and jailing of innocent Cubans many times that amount.

This proves the point of my post that before they criticize the speck in our eye, they should address the plank of wood lodged in theirs.

Very sexy! I'd be embarrassed to be associated with, or in support of, these loons.

I agree with you 100%, Castro is a bigger albatross around the necks of the "liberals" [by the way, I don't consider those people liberals, because liberals in the purest sense of the word are progressives, they want change, evolution, they support the rights of the individual over the right of the state, unlike Code Pink that supports an ossified human rights suppressing regime that has been stuck in a time warp for 50 years, but, hey, that's a matter of semantics]. In any case, unfortunately, because they have the mainstream media on their side, or let me put it this way, because the MSM hates us much more than they are amused by Code Pink's antics, we are the ones that are seen as holding the albatross around our necks, not Code Pink.

By the way, I've even seen some MSM papers comparing Posada Carriles to the Sept 9th hijackers. Posada Carriles is an indiscreet, lose canon ball who is presently doing us a lot of harm. It's sad, but true. He played into Castro's hand like un anillo a un dedo.

Ray, I understand your point that Posada-Carriles is an easy target for the MSM, but so is every Cuban exile that does not subscribe to the MSM's agenda regarding Cuba. The only way the MSM and the liberal/progressive community (define the term however you like, but that is what they call themselves, a la Maxine Waters just the other day) will ever sympathize with the Cuban exiles is when we adopt their agenda.

Therefore, what point is there in us marginalizing and shutting out the most vocal among us when the opposition will not stop their attacks until all Cuban exiles that do not subscribe to their ideas--Posada-Carriles as well as you and I--are silenced? We are NOT the bad guys here, they are. It is time we stop acting like we are.

Alberto,

Your point is well-taken. I see what you mean.

It seems wise to take the Cuban government accusations against Posada Carriles with a grain of salt. Remember he was acquitted of the plane bombing , however even so the passenger list of that plane was essentially military personel (even the fencing team, North Korean Intelligence officials, and directors of Cuba's then quite active trawler spy fleet (this does not mean that I approve Posadas's tactics).

Is it not fair to demand the extradition of Posada Carilles without a political agenda? I believe it was the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals that officially acknowledged Posada Carilles to be a terrorist?

Still, I am a liberal, and not a Castro apologist. My very presence on this blog is my naive hope to show you people that liberals and conservatives can agree on issues as fundamental as human rights. We can agree on ending tyranny in Cuba. I realize there are congressmen (not from my district!) who support Castro, and I realize they are liberals, for that I am ashamed.

I am happy to inform you, though, that there a large majority of us who do NOT support Castro (but do not confuse this with supporting the embargo.. let's not go down that road). As Ray has pointed out (for the first time in the history of this blog), true liberal ideology and practiced liberal policy are not always congruent (this is true for any political platform). That being said, a liberal is first and foremost for the preservation of human rights, so he or she prima facie must stand adamantly opposed to the Castro regime.

For you to condemn killing innocent civilians on one end, though, then defend it on the grounds that "it's not as bad as so and so" is ludicrous. Here's my crazy liberal stance: you have to be just as evil to blow up a passenger plane full of civilians as you do to commit genocide.

There is no albatross around our necks, sorry. You would all do yourselves a remarkable service for your credibility by assisting in the ousting of Posada Carilles. As long as he is tied to the anti-Castro movement, there will be a great big anchor preventing any substantial change.

edit: apparently not everyone on the plane was a civilian... my apologies. I still deplore the tactics, as should anyone else..

Mike, no one on this blog has ever condoned the killing of innocent civilians becaused it served a political purpose. Posada-Carriles was tried for the airline bombing and acquitted. Does that mean for certain he did not do it? Of course not; OJ was tried and acquitted, too. But as long as the MSM keeps the focus on one man and his unproven crimes, a regime in Cuba that is guilty for the deaths and torture of hundreds of thousands of innocent people stays in the shadows.

That is what the regime wants to do: keep us busy arguing about Posada-Carriles while they continue their half-century long reign of terror.

Never mind that Posada was acquitted, never mind Posada´s lifelong dedication to and risking his life in a war to free his homeland, if years of Cuban propaganda say he´s a murdering terrorist, must be so, right? So why not throw him to the wolves and save the community the embarrassment of bad press. Coño

Mike, "you people" have been complicit with Cuba's enslavement for over fifty years. Don't lecture us on a goddamn thing until "you people" clean your own house of the fellow travelers and castro sycophants. I appreciate your stance; you are a "Nat Hentoff liberal" in my view. But if you do not rein in the others of your ilk, and if you keep voting for the Obamas of the world, your wishes will blow away in the wind.

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