November 28, 2008
Obamunist internet CDRs are already doing their work
During the election we saw many disturbing patterns of attempts to silence anyone who tried to discredit Senator Hopeandchange. His campaign sent letters to TV stations warning of them of legal consequences for running ads that they didn't like, supposedly because they were inaccurate. And then there were the mobs of supporters who would comment on any negative blog post or article about Senator Hopeandchange. I guess they picked up that little technique from Ron Paul supporters.
Well tonight I got an email from a reader named Paul Zecchino:
My friends enjoy babalublog and value it as early warning system for dangerous times. We say, 'when sick, see the doctor as he knows patterns and symptoms of sickness. When we sense that our country is ailing, we turn to our Cuban-American friends who know first hand the patterns and signs of the disease called communism.'Many noted as the election approached, acorn types scanned the net for posts they didn't like and tried to discredit if not silence the posters.
Found linked article on Drudge. Posted my comments at # 5. Several posted beneath, claiming to be me. They published my e-mail and home addresses as well as an old post from Naples News which they either googled or had at the ready - which begs more questions.I posted a follow up which was held 'for moderation', not published. Rather than acknowledge those who posted private data, I asked readers if they noticed how leftists insult and try to stifle those with whom they disagree yet cannot truthfully refute.
Shortly following second attempted post, Drudge dropped link, no further comments were posted.
Attacks on Stanley Kurtz, numerous pests calling talk shows demanding 'give him a chance'', and now google's 'sandbox' censoring of http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com suggest those who fear truth are working intensely at many levels to bury it.
Yes, this are the times we live in. I've had my home address and phone number posted by people who think I'll be intimidated. I laugh when they do it because I'm the easiest person in the world to find. Still I keep a little extra protection in my house, and I intend to keep it regardless of the Obamessiah.
Posted by Henry Louis Gomez at November 28, 2008 11:06 PM
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Gee I'm a Ron Paul supporter. I have never attempted to silence anyone nor have I heard of even one case where this has occurred by any Ron Paul supporter. We feel it is always better to let people live or die by their own words. Could you provide an example of how we violated free speech? I'd be curious to hear about it.
Perhaps you were mistaken and meant to say "supporters of the two main party hack" who stifle free speech. Remember McCain Feingold campaign gag laws? Remember that protesters at both main party conventions were attacked by police for complaining? Remember that today in the terror world we must now go to a caged in free speech zones in the wilderness where no one can even see or hear you to have our free speech?
Finally, you obviously didn't know that Ron Paul was gagged at the Republican convention, his movements restricted and he had a guard shadow him where ever he went during the convention.
Is free speech violated if you don't know it has occurred?
Posted by: Tomas Estrada-Palma
at November 29, 2008 08:15 AM
It seems Chavez is convinced that Obama will do a "Jimmy Carter" with Venezuela and his political killings have begun
http://www.eluniversal.com/2008/11/28/en_pol_art_two-opposition-leade_28A2150579.shtml
Civil War cannot be far behind
Posted by: Larry Daley
at November 29, 2008 09:19 AM
Comments critical of Obama the Corvallis Gazette Times (Oregon) are met by a barrage of personal attacks
Posted by: Larry Daley
at November 29, 2008 09:22 AM
Tomas,
The first person to mention "free speech" in this thread is you. I likened the "mobs of supporters who would comment on any negative blog post or article about Senator Hopeandchange" to Ron Paul supporters who did the same thing. I never said all Ron Paul supporters engaged in this behavior, but I didn't say all Obama supporters did either. I didn't invent the word "Paulbot". It was born out of just the behavior I described.
Posted by: Henry Louis Gomez
at November 29, 2008 01:58 PM
Oh I see. Responding to negative assertions is engaging in "this" behavior. What kind of behavior would that be? Maybe you could tell me what a paulbot is? Is it people who agree with Ron Paul that we should obey the US Constitution and not allow the international bankers, who give us our two choices every presidential election, to destroy America? I guess the opposite of a paulbot would be a FOXBOT - believers of anything as long as it's asserted on TV.
One thing we "paulbots" never do is insult and demean. We will however pipe up as soon as our ideas are challenged. No one seems to be able to mount ANY effective challenges to our ideas. But the collectivists on the right and left do think up little sayings like paulbot that are suppose to have some pertinent relevance to the situation. But these little big media labels are void of ideas.
If you could challenge the principles upon which I believe then you would be doing something - and I would be glad you did because you would be setting me straight. But all I hear is silence with the din of name calling devoid of logical ideas.
Here is just one idea that was never discussed during the election by either banker approved candidate - the Federal Reserve flooding the economy with dollars driving up prices which has completely destabilized the economy. Tell me again why McCain would somehow be better than Obama when neither even mentioned the words Federal Reserve Board.
The way I see it you can either show me how there would be a difference between the two, ignore the question entirely or start name calling with labels. I like the free market as opposed to this corporate socialism masquerading as the free market. But if you voted for McCain or Obama you clearly voted for a central bank controlled by international bankers and that ain't the free market.
You may not believe these things to be important in your lives. Check with me this time next year and see if you still feel that way. You may hope I'm wrong but just to be safe maybe you should prepare for the worst?
Posted by: Tomas Estrada-Palma
at November 30, 2008 11:27 AM
Tomas,
You may not have acted like some other Paul supporters but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. I dealt with some at my other blog. I voted for McCain because he was the lesser of two evils. I voted for Mitt Romney in the Florida primary because I'm a conservative, not a libertarian. Although I agree with some libertarian ideas I don't agree with it all. The obsession with the banking system is one of the things that I don't understand.
Posted by: Henry Louis Gomez
at November 30, 2008 03:41 PM
I knew you didn't understand the banking aspect of our reasoning because if you did you be mad as hell and surely would never vote for any candidate who supported it. There is a Marxist revolution happening right before our eyes. The trouble is it is the big bankers like Rothschild and Rockefeller who are the actual commies. They are avowed Marxists and have repeatedly asserted this fact in public. These bankers own all the media including FOX and they play the American left and the American right for suckers. It is like one big WWF grudge match.
Why am I at war with these Marxist bankers? Remember earlier this past year when all you guys who label yourselves conservatives were saying we had to drill in the ocean and refine more gas to reduce the price of fuel? The left was saying no tax more and use solar and wind etc.? But you were both wrong and I was right. It was the escalating supply of money that was the real cause of the skyrocketing cost of gasoline and housing for that matter. Conversely, it is now the plummeting supply of dollars that is the sole reason for the drastic decline in gas prices and also housing. Gas is now half of what is was in price yet we have not sunk even one new drill hole for oil nor opened not even one new refinery. But the banks refuse to lend out money and that is the main way in a fractional reserve system that new money is injected into the economy. So now the Republicans and Democrats are whipping up trillions of fiat currency and dumping it into the economy to aide their supporters in banking and industry - you know like Chavez. You guys down in South Florida are beginning to get this swindle too because I hear you grumbling more and more these days. You know something just ain't right when the commies we hate so much are starting to praise our leaders policies.
Here is what is really happening. These bankster snakes have the rest of the world completely suckered with their fake slave currencies based on nothing. The last thing standing between them and domination of the planet is the good ol' USA which use to have the only real monetary system based on gold and silver - which ended 95 years ago. These Marxist bankers intend on breaking up America into smaller more manageable pieces by sowing chaos in the economy. From what I'm hearing from those suckered on the left and on the right they are right on schedule. You may not believe me about this as you did not believe me about many things already that have come about. As next year progresses and beyond it will become painfully apparent that I am correct especially if you are looking for it. This is why the bankers with their media holdings anointed Obama and McCain as our choices. They are both pitifully ignorant, unprincipled politicians who will each make tremendously good fall guys.
Maybe I'm completely wrong about this stuff Henry and it would be great if I was. But just in case please grow food, keep a good supply of water and you may wish to be armed if you are not already. You have family that depends on you being wise.
Posted by: Tomas Estrada-Palma
at December 1, 2008 09:12 AM
